God was to be man’s slave. How did the reverse happen?

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

God was to be man’s slave. How did the reverse happen?

Early man created both philosophy and theology to serve mankind. Philosophy was to seek the best rules to live by and implement them through a political system that was headed by man. Theology was to seek the best rules to live by and implement them through religion headed by an absentee God. Both were created to be slaved to man.

Jesus preached that holy things were created to serve man as well. The Sabbath was created for man and not man for the Sabbath. That is why he showed that we can work on the Sabbath and ignore the manmade law.

The religious manmade creations then, --- including God, --- are to be slaved to man. That works well with logic and reason as the strong are to serve the weak and not the weak serve the strong.

So how did God, who was to be a slave to man, --- become man’s master?

Now I know that most will say that God is supposed to be our master, --- but please note, --- that man has created government to serve us. Not to make slaves of us. We control governments. They do not control us. To have us control our political entity is normal and just.

As above so below says that God is also to come under man’s control. We created God just as we created governments.

That is what Jesus taught.
He even moved God aside and became our judge. We are now to answer to men and not some absentee man created God.

Are you ready to seek God as Jesus says we must? Are you willing to be a master to God, and like Jesus, take control of the judging powers of God?

When you can say that your God is I am, the Gnostic Christian way --- and mean you, --- then you will begin to know God.

Regards
DL

To know who and where Jesus thought God was. _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

To find I am in you.
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y

General Gnostic beliefs.
_http://www.thesongofgod.com/tgc/basic_beliefs.html


Mod edit: deactivated links.

 

[Alada]

For some reason I always miss read your name as Gnostic Christian Bookshop, every time!

My advice would be to read more of the material being discussed here, it might provide food for thought and answer many of your questions in the process. Or alternatively there are plenty of places that love talking about Jesus et al as if everything were fact, you might have more luck with such discussion there.

Anyhoo, given that this is the Cassiopaea Forum you signed up to here, I AM wondering how much of the Cassiopaea material you have read?

 

[Sol Logos]

The religious manmade creations then, --- including God, --- are to be slaved to man. That works well with logic and reason as the strong are to serve the weak and not the weak serve the strong.

You never know, maybe computers will one day imagine the same thing about man.

 

[James Henry]

Hi Gnostic Christian Bishop,

I was wondering if you are here to learn or here to preach? Your cup seems pretty full, and that you believe you know THE way.

On enslaving man, are you aware of what your avatar represents?

Kaa trying to hypnotize.

From _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaa

The Jungle Book (1967)

In the 1967 Disney animation The Jungle Book, Kaa, voiced by Sterling Holloway (and later, by Jim Cummings after Holloway's death), is markedly different from his original counterpart. Rather than being a mentor, he serves as comic relief who twice attempts to trap Mowgli in his coils in order to devour him throughout the film. He does this through the use of hypnotic eyes as opposed to the original version, in which he uses a serpentine dance to control his prey. His attempts to eat Mowgli always end in a comical failure. He is also quite cowardly, attempting to curry favor with Shere Khan whenever he is around.

Near the beginning of the film, Bagheera and Mowgli stop to sleep for the night in a huge jungle tree. Bagheera, exhausted from their journey, quickly begins to fall asleep. Mowgli, on the other hand, is still awake, sleepy and frustrated that he is being forced to leave the jungle where he lives. After the two settle in for the night, Kaa, a long python with luminous eyes slithers down from the foliage towards the young boy and whispers softly to himself, "Sssay now, what have we here?" As he moves closer to get a good look, he says playfully, "Why it's a mancub! A delissious little mancub." Mowgli has never seen a python before, and unaware of any danger he might be in tells Kaa, "Oh, go away and leave me alone!" Bagheera assumes that the mancub is talking to him and tells him to go to sleep. Kaa inspired by this then turns to Mowgli and begins to send spirals of blue, yellow and turquoise through his eyes, trying to hypnotize him. Mowgli is soon reflecting these spirals and is swaying his head in tandem with Kaa's who all the while is seductively singing to an entranced and intrigued Mowgli to 'go to sleep'. After Mowgli's initial efforts to repress Kaa's seductive spirals, Mowgli soon has his pupils disappear as Kaa continues to entrance and hypnotize him. As Mowgli is being hypnotized, Kaa begins to coil up the helpless mancub up with his soft, thick tail which further enhances his enchantment of the boy who is now beginning to struggle as he sleepily tries to keep his eyes open. Mowgli soon has his eyes droop with drowsiness that the spirals and seductive song are inducing but has them re-open with the realisation of the danger he is in. However Kaa's spirals are too strong and Mowgli is soon wrapped up to the chest with coils. As Mowgli makes one last attempt to call to Bagheera to save him he can only croak out his name as he is half hypnotized and still concentrating on Kaa's bobbing head, spirals and soft song, and as he does so, Kaa tightens his final coil around Mowgli's neck making him gulp loudly. After Bagheera hears Kaa mention that Mowgli will not be there in the morning he spins around to see Mowgli hanging limply in Kaa's coils, bare feet dangling and an oblivious grin on his face. Bagheera intervenes by smacking Kaa over the head. Angered by this, Kaa turns on Bagheera only to be shoved out of the tree by a confused, yet awake, Mowgli. As he is leaving his tail gets stuck because of a knot.

Kaa reappears later on in the film when Mowgli runs away from Baloo, who is trying to return the boy to his own kind. Mowgli comes to rest at the base of a large tree before a long dark tail comes down and pulls him up into the canopy. Up on a branch, Mowgli is trying to release himself from Kaa's coils. Kaa attempts to hypnotize Mowgli again but Mowgli is still trying to escape his clutches. Eventually, Mowgli succeeds in untangling himself and begins walking off down the branch but is stopped by Kaa, fastening a coil over his eyes. Mowgli, bewildered, tries to pry the coil off. He succeeds only to be met with Kaa's spinning hypnotic eyes. Mowgli quickly falls under his spell again as Kaa begins to sing "Trust in Me", inducing Mowgli into a soothing trance, sleepwalking down his body (which take the shape of a flight of stairs) with a big smiling grin on his face, before coming to rest on a hammock of Kaa's coils. Soon, Kaa throws Mowgli up into the air, balancing the boy upside down on the tip of his tail. Mowgli's body goes rigid and he begins to snore. Kaa berates the mancub before sliding him into his thick, brown coils, yet again with only his bare feet and head poking out. This attempt to eat Mowgli is also foiled, ironically by Shere Khan, who is not convinced by Kaa's bluff, even after searching Kaa's coils and not feeling Mowgli inside; the distraction caused by Khan allowed Mowgli to regain consciousness and escape.

 

[Laura]

God was to be man’s slave. How did the reverse happen?

Early man created both philosophy and theology to serve mankind.

No, religion was "created" after massive cataclysms as a formula to appease the gods and stop the death and destruction.

Philosophy was developed at a later date in an attempt to understand the myths and rituals in "esoteric" terms, since the gods were no longer running rampant in the skies dealing death and destruction.

Philosophy was to seek the best rules to live by and implement them through a political system that was headed by man. Theology was to seek the best rules to live by and implement them through religion headed by an absentee God. Both were created to be slaved to man.

Most of this was developed by oligarchs to serve oligarchs and keep them in power.

Jesus preached that holy things were created to serve man as well. The Sabbath was created for man and not man for the Sabbath. That is why he showed that we can work on the Sabbath and ignore the manmade law.

Jesus was Julius Caesar.

 

[electrosonic]

Now I know that most will say that God is supposed to be our master ...

Ouch .... which God have you been making energetic exchanges with GCB?! Those people you refer to are most definitely on the road to STSville