Freaky visions

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hungrig

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Hello sott folks, I just subscribed to this forum.

BTW, I read some of the cassiopaean material/LKJ books ect, and observed you folks here for some long time.
Please excuse me if my writing style/Grammatics is bad, my first language is swedish, anyway...

I been having alot of flashes of light in my vision, lateley. It started some 6 months ago while I were self observing myself, 24/7.
I were able too do it, becuse I had quit shcool and did not have any work for a year.

I dont' remember exactly the first time it happened, but what I do remember is, I whwere sitting in the living room then there was this, little noise/shake in the room, then there was this white flash all over, it were problably lasting for 0.5 secs, fast it was in anycase. I dissmissed it, but it did not stop, it happaned almost everyday thereafter, then it just became more intense.

I could see like glowing orange/yellow/White light in the side of my vision, in the booth eyes, then the flashes would come again.
At night, when the flashes/flames comes, in the dark, I can see, like there is some lamp in there, lighting the whole room up. Even if I cover my eyes up, there still is light.

I also seen blue little dotts flying around in my shower, they were swringling around like a little tornadosformation.
I touched it and it vanished.

There is so much that happened to me, I have been having some problem too take controll of my spasming muscels and little wierd stuff that I been having alot of problems with since my self observason.

Recently all my visions and dreams and so on have been gone, couse I had this pressure on the top of my skull for 2 months
I have been having problems with sleep and life in general.

Last night there was two flashes, And Iam felling better now!

Thanks, :)
 

Russ

Jedi Master
Hmmm I think you should go and see a optician/doctor, what you're describing sounds like it could be quite serious. Best to be on the safe side...
 
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hungrig

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Russ said:
Hmmm I think you should go and see a optician/doctor, what you're describing sounds like it could be quite serious. Best to be on the safe side...
Yes, I guess it's pretty serious. I would want to see an doctor, but i am afraid of that "world" of official medicals/government is not so serious with this stuff i am in too.

Like if I said to them: Emm I can see in the dark or have these flashes ect--

Would they not put me in some mental illness madhouse???(I don't really know) No doubt they would think I am insane, without even litsen too what I have too say about it and so on.

Recently I been accused of having a tumor (cancer) in my brain, by an doctor working in the swedish Lasarett ( hospital ), just becouse my father said too BUPP ( psychologists organization ) that I hear the telivision set in too my room from my dad 's telivision, completely bizzare. :mad:

I don't know how this was arranged aside from what my dad told these psychologists and how the hospital got involved but I don't either know if they did this correctly, legaly?

They threathed me with The LVU law (lagen om vård för unga). Where they can take me against my will and go figure the rest. But they thought I was to close to be 18 that they did not do that.

I have not attended too any examinations, their so called "probable cancer diagnos", is something they made up in the thin air.

My mother could not cancel this, I had to threaten my dad to do it!
I don't like the ways of this system so to )/(=)with it.

:/ btw, i am 17 years old. If I were 18 it would not be so hard.
In the past I also had bizzare events with the dentists. :) funny world

I have an appointment with an optician next week but that is only for my bad farout vision so I can start test driving.

EDIT. I forgot to tell this, that the pressure I had on the top of my head for about 2 months , no one is aware about execpt the people who are reading this.

It's a funny coincident but true, but I see that as an not so physical problem.
But yes, there is some possibility that I may have cancer, but that is not the point here.
 

anart

A Disturbance in the Force
hungrig said:
Russ said:
Hmmm I think you should go and see a optician/doctor, what you're describing sounds like it could be quite serious. Best to be on the safe side...
Yes, I guess it's pretty serious. I would want to see an doctor, but i am afraid of that "world" of official medicals/government is not so serious with this stuff i am in too.

Recently I been accused of having a tumor (cancer) in my brain, by an doctor working in the swedish Lasarett ( hospital ), just becouse my father said too BUPP ( psychologists organization ) that I hear the telivision set in too my room from my dad 's telivision, completely bizzare. :mad:
Well, quite frankly, the symptoms you are describing do sound like a brain tumor. I think you need to get that checked out.

h said:
I have an appointment with an optician next week but that is only for my bad farout vision so I can start test driving.

EDIT. I forgot to tell this, that the pressure I had on the top of my head for about 2 months , no one is aware about execpt the people who are reading this.
It might be wise to tell the optician that you see flashes of light and have pain in your head - these are not normal occurrences.

h said:
But yes, there is some possibility that I may have cancer, but that is not the point here.
This statement makes no sense. What if these things you see are the result of a brain tumor and nothing more? The fact of the matter is that you cannot know such a thing for sure until you have it checked out by a professional. Of course, you can continue to lie to yourself about it and pretend that it is all 'magic' and 'proof that you are special' - but until you rule out a physiological reason for these symptoms, all that is a lie and nothing more.
 
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hungrig

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Well, quite frankly, the symptoms you are describing do sound like a brain tumor. I think you need to get that checked out.
OK, I quess you meant everything I described of my 'incidents/''symptoms''', with that comment. I mean just becouse my HEARING is over sensistiv to my dad's telivision, they thought I had cancer. I did not Even say this or spoke to any doctor it were my dad, then I hear about this LVU Law.

I would say it would be some kind of tinnitus, but I am not an doctor, so I can't say.
I just thought this was so ridiculous.

It might be wise to tell the optician that you see flashes of light and have pain in your head - these are not normal occurrences.
Yes it is probalby wise, but I will not do that.

This statement makes no sense. What if these things you see are the result of a brain tumor and nothing more? The fact of the matter is that you cannot know such a thing for sure until you have it checked out by a professional. Of course, you can continue to lie to yourself about it and pretend that it is all 'magic' and 'proof that you are special' - but until you rule out a physiological reason for these symptoms, all that is a lie and nothing more.
Yes, it could be the result of an brain tumor, or it may not be. I cannot know that for sure - like you are saying.

Why do you think, I am thinking myself too being special? I did not know I were lieing to myself? Second, I did not say it was magic :S

Of course I can't prove anything. I am sorry, if you think I am lying, there is nothing I can do, becouse I don't believe i am in for any physiological examination.

I really didnot connect my recent head pressure with these flashes I have been having for a long time.

And I apologize for I have not told you everything here in detal, about my headpressure ect. I will explain more in detal if that is asked of me.

Thanks for your inputs! :)
 

anart

A Disturbance in the Force
hungrig said:
It might be wise to tell the optician that you see flashes of light and have pain in your head - these are not normal occurrences.
Yes it is probalby wise, but I will not do that.
Why not?

h said:
Yes, it could be the result of an brain tumor, or it may not be. I cannot know that for sure - like you are saying.
Why do you think, I am thinking myself too being special? I did not know I were lieing to myself? Second, I did not say it was magic :S
I said this because instead of looking for a physiological cause for these visual manifestations, you seem fully convinced that they are the result of 'what you are into' - are you not? Or do you think they mean nothing and are nothing? I used the word magic figuratively - to mean that these manifestations are anything other than nerve impulses registering on your optic nerve due to internal pressure or some other physiological cause.


h said:
Of course I can't prove anything. I am sorry, if you think I am lying, there is nothing I can do, becouse I don't believe i am in for any physiological examination.
I don't think you are lying about what you are seeing - I think you are lying to yourself about what it is that you are seeing and you are lying to yourself about the whole 'doctor' issue - in order to protect your own self-image and enjoyment of these things you see.

h said:
I really did not connect my recent head pressure with these flashes I have been having for a long time.
Well, perhaps a wise move would be to simply research visual flashes of light, head pressure, and auditory sensitivity on a medical website to see what comes up - you might be quite surprised to realize all three of those symptoms can be linked to brain tumors.


h said:
And I apologize for I have not told you everything here in detal, about my headpressure ect. I will explain more in detal if that is asked of me.

Thanks for your inputs! :)
I'm not saying that you most certainly do have a brain tumor - I'm simply saying that it is logical and wise to investigate all possibilities before coming to a conclusion - if you are so enamored with these visual manifestations that you do not want them to stop, then I think your signature "sweet dreams" seems very appropriate and that, of course, is your choice.
 
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hungrig

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I said this because instead of looking for a physiological cause for these visual
manifestations, you seem fully convinced that they are the result of 'what you are into' - are you not? Or do you think they mean nothing and are nothing? I used the word magic figuratively - to mean that these manifestations are anything other than nerve impulses registering on your optic nerve due to internal pressure or some other physiological cause.
Yes, I don't know what this is. I am open too all the possibilites.

I don't think you are lying about what you are seeing - I think you are lying to yourself about what it is that you are seeing and you are lying to yourself about the whole 'doctor' issue - in order to protect your own self-image and enjoyment of these things you see.
I DID NOT SAY I enjoyed these experinces, but right on it, I do!
I don't know what I see, but that is how I see it, from the same perspective of my normal eyes vision! I am not telling doctors, psychologist ect, becouse i am afraid of ridicule ect. Then about this docotor issue- I have the mails/pappers with the doctors signature, and my mother witnesses account. I don't have any scanner that is working, and I will not upload anything here, but I could pm you if interested and if I could scan the pappers somewhere!


Well, perhaps a wise move would be to simply research visual flashes of light, head pressure, and auditory sensitivity on a medical website to see what comes up - you might be quite surprised to realize all three of those symptoms can be linked to brain tumors.
I will re-search, thanks for your suggestion!


I'm not saying that you most certainly do have a brain tumor - I'm simply saying that it is
logical and wise to investigate all possibilities before coming to a conclusion - if you are so enamored with these visual manifestations that you do not want them to stop, then I think your signature "sweet dreams" seems very appropriate and that, of course, is your choice.
Yes you are right, but I have not concluded anything. I do enjoy these flashes, thought I think it's intressting. And my choice is not too leave this forum, if I may?!

My signature is not related to this thread.

Thanks again,
 

Cyre2067

The Living Force
Hi hungrig - I'm not sure what you've read and what you haven't, but this forum and it's members focus on 'Waking up' from the subjective dream that is our collective reality. Special emphasis is given to the Work of GI Gurdjieff, Boris Mouravieff, with some Carlos Casteneda here and there. You may want to re-read the rules (link at the top) as it contains the 'essence' of what we're all about.

Your flashes are definitely of concern. The fact that you enjoy them is also indicative of the 'sleep' you are in, and thus your 'dreaming' that these flashes are a positive thing. I did a quick scroogle on brain tumor symptoms, and typically there's headaches, nausea, balance issues, double vision, hearing buzzes, progressive loss of one's ability to speak, and a sudden change in personality (they noted an attitude of 'Not Caring'). If you've noticed any of these I'd suggest seeing a specialist, maybe request a CAT scan or an MRI.

You're more then welcome to hang around, but expect to have your subjective ideas looked at with a critical eye, your emotional programs pointed out, and any 'phenomenon chasing' met with harsh criticism.

Also, your signature is interesting because you are wishing 'Sweet dreams' to fellow forumites who are definitely in the business of 'Waking Up'. Most of the sweet dreaming results in lies we tell ourselves so that we can be more comfortable with our subjective reality, with our beliefs, such as your belief 'these flashes are a good thing'.
 
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hungrig

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Hi hungrig - I'm not sure what you've read and what you haven't, but this forum and it's members focus on 'Waking up' from the subjective dream that is our collective reality. Special emphasis is given to the Work of GI Gurdjieff, Boris Mouravieff, with some Carlos Casteneda here and there. You may want to re-read the rules (link at the top) as it contains the 'essence' of what we're all about.
Hi Cyre2067,


I have read the forum rules and am aware of the works written by Gurdjief, PD Ouspensky, Collin, Carlos, Mouravieff and more. I been observing this for some time, I am not saying I understand or get this all, not even near, but I try.

I do agree with you that I may be in sleep and that my flashes may be a concern, thanks for your input.

....expect to have your subjective ideas looked at with a critical eye, your emotional programs pointed out, and any 'phenomenon chasing' met with harsh criticism.
Of course :)

Also, your signature is interesting because you are wishing 'Sweet dreams' to fellow forumites who are definitely in the business of 'Waking Up'. Most of the sweet dreaming results in lies we tell ourselves so that we can be more comfortable with our subjective reality, with our beliefs, such as your belief 'these flashes are a good thing'.
I removed my signature, I am sorry.
 

GRiM

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
hungrig said:
Recently I been accused of having a tumor (cancer) in my brain, by an doctor working in the swedish Lasarett ( hospital ), just becouse my father said too BUPP ( psychologists organization ) that I hear the telivision set in too my room from my dad 's telivision, completely bizzare. mad
Well maybe he had his reasons, whatever the case what you described does seem unusual and could be a braintumor/damage. Btw accused of having, do you mean diagnosed?

hungrig said:
Would they not put me in some mental illness madhouse???(I don't really know) No doubt they would think I am insane, without even litsen too what I have too say about it and so on.
If you go to a physician and ask for a examination because of issues you are having that resembles symptoms of neurological damage they will not throw you in a 'mental hospital'. With that said you probably should´nt start a debate with the examinator about extraterrestrials and mind control, not that I think that would be a problem in normal cases but if you have a file in the psychiatric care then it could be. Dont forget that swedish healthcare is free or almost free, so I cant see a reason not to go.


ps. why did you choose the name "hungrig"? (in english Hungry)
 
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hungrig

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Well maybe he had his reasons, whatever the case what you described does seem unusual and could be a braintumor/damage. Btw accused of having, do you mean diagnosed?
No, I did not mean 'diagnos', my bad. They were stating in the letter that they were
sure of it. And wanted me to get examed. I made an serious error here, with that word, sorry.

They said that the LVU law was an good option, but did not go further becouse my father canceled the whole thing plus that I am close to be 18 years old. Maybe my father had his reasons, and maybe I was little to upset about this. And still I am little chocked about it, becouse all they knew, was that my hearing is over sensitiv to certain things.

But yup, I overreacted, I should have told my father that I have more symptoms than just my hearing problem.

If you go to a physician and ask for a examination because of issues you are having that resembles symptoms of neurological damage they will not throw you in a 'mental hospital'. With that said you probably should´nt start a debate with the examinator about extraterrestrials and mind control, not that I think that would be a problem in normal cases but if you have a file in the psychiatric care then it could be. Dont forget that swedish healthcare is free or almost free, so I cant see a reason not to go.
You are right, I really should go, but I still don't want to, I dont know why.
Iam not in any psychiatric care record, and would certainly not ever talk about extraterrestrials and mind control to such persons you referred.

ps. why did you choose the name "hungrig"? (in english Hungry)
It's nothing, really :)
It became like a nick name for me some years ago, for some rap song I recorded. It was just for fun, and i am not a rapper. It was an shamefull expeirince, please, let's not go further on that.
 

Russ

Jedi Master
I think you're always better off going to get something which could be serious checked out. Even get second opinions if you're not sure. The main incentive for me is the fact that its always better to catch something early on, because if there is something there, then every day you leave it can make it harder to cure, or even longer and youre risking all your chances of recovery. I admit I hate going to the doctors, its not a nice position to be in, but in the end I still go because I consider what can happen in the future.
 
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hungrig

Guest
Yup, all I can do is to express my admitiance to your advice Russ.
That it is the best and logic thing I can do, what you would do. And of course do it.

I share the 'hate' of going to the 'doctors', I feel this creepy feeling, which I really can't explain, chilling throu me.
I think I will just wait a little time, not to long. Then take up this issue myself with an doctor, gently.

Thanks, to ya' all. :)

PS. Now I've been to the optican. My vision was so bad that I sure need at least linses/glasses. I also have astigmatism. I did not mention anything about my flashes thought. :rolleyes:
 
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hungrig

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Me found on this site a report about 'Experiment Operation During Apollo IVA at 0-g'.
It was on my mind, so I thought, '-post it.'

_http://ares.jsc.nasa.gov/HumanExplore/Exploration/EXLibrary/docs/ApolloCat/Part2/ALFMED.htm

Some qoutes:

All crews since A-11 (and perhaps some earlier) observed light flashes when in the dark or when they closed their eyes, while in transit to and from the Moon, on the surface, and in lunar orbit. On A-14 an observational schedule was first followed to test the various theories of the origin of the flashes. Flashes could be seen with the eyes open or closed when the spacecraft was dark. They discovered that it was not necessary to be dark adapted to see the flashes. This indicates that Cerenkov radiation from energetic cosmic rays traversing the eyeball, which had been the most widely accepted explanation for the light flashes, probably did not cause all or most of the flashes because light from this source is quite faint. Some of the flashes observed in space may be caused by direct ionization interactions of cosmic rays with the retina.

The ALFMED was an electromechanical device carried on A-16 & 17 that was worn on the head somewhat like a helmet and supported cosmic-radiation-sensitive emulsions around the head of the test subject. A physical record was provided of cosmic ray particles that passed through the emulsion and, in turn, through the head. A fixed vs. moving emulsion comparison allowed time resolution to 1 sec.
and

The A-15 crew had observing sessions with eye shades on during the trans-lunar and trans-Earth coasts. They reported the flashes to MCC real-time. Also, the CMP had an observing session in lunar orbit and the crew on the surface reported that they saw flashes while in the LM. The LMP reported that the frequency of flashes was lower when he was lying on his stomach in his hammock than when he was on his back. On A-16 & 17 two one-hour sessions were conducted, one each during trans-lunar and trans-Earth coasts. ALFMED was worn in the 1st session only, eye shades were used for the second. The observa-tion of flashes was reported to MCC and was correlated with ALFMED results. The event rate was higher during trans-lunar than trans-Earth coast. Photography of the fundus of the eye before and after flight revealed no detectable changes. The CMP never saw any flashes for the entire flight of A-16, but it is worth noting that he has poor night vision.
It must have been a freaky vision, don't you think?

Catalog of Apollo Experiment Operations:
_http://ares.jsc.nasa.gov/HumanExplore/Exploration/EXLibrary/docs/ApolloCat/apollo.htm

I haven't read it all, but sure it's intressting.
 
hmmm...I'm pretty sure I'm posting this to the right forum. After reading over some of the other posts I can say that I'm fairly sure my experience falls into this category. Several times during the past few weeks I've had the sensation of the earth violently moving or shaking. I was awake each of these three times, once laying down and twice sitting up and in different places. This has never happened before, I'm in good health, my heart was beating normally, I had not been drinking, I don't do drugs so I ruled out the usual suspects lol. I don't know...it was more like a premonition of something then an actual earthquake, the feeling is difficult to describe but it was definitely real and I figured I would just share it here.
 
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