Discussion around whether comets were the cause of the extinction of mammoths

HiThere

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These people argue that their findings show that mammoths weren't necessarily wiped out by cometary impact:

Researchers have previously suggested that the last mass extinction of animals on Earth was triggered by a comet colliding with the planet and sparking a sudden drop in temperature around 13,000 years ago.

This sudden change in climate, known as the Younger-Dryas climate reversal, saw many species of large mammals die out and also brought humans to the brink of extinction.

But scientists now claim to have disproved the controversial theory after finding a key piece of evidence used to support the comet impact idea could have been created by a more mundane process.

Another theory, which proposes that fresh water from a giant glacial lake glaciers poured into the North Atlantic, upsetting the ocean's currents which had helped keep most of the planet ice free, is now the most likely explaination for the shift in climate, which triggered the extinctions.

Scientists first put forward the idea that a comet was behind the extinctions after tiny crystals of carbon, known as nanodiamonds, were found in 12,900 year old sediment layers.

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They claimed these nanodiamonds were formed by the massive forces and temperatures created by an impact strike.

Experts said the presence of these nanodiamonds were evidence of a devastating impact by a comet or meteor, which threw millions of tonnes of dust into the atmosphere, causing the planet to cool.

However, researchers at Washington University in St Louis, Missouri, and Royal Hollway University of London, have found that these carbon crystals are not diamonds at all and are in fact clumps of another form of carbon known as graphene which commonly forms in sediments.

Professor Andrew Scott, one of the authors of the research at Royal Holloway University's earth sciences department, said: "Our results cast doubt upon one of the last widely discussed pieces of evidence supporting the Younger-Dryas impact hypothesis."

The Younger-Dryas climate reversal came at the end of a period known as the Pleistocene around 12,900 years ago.

During this period some of the largest mammals to have ever lived on land were spread throughout the globe, including mammoths, giant bears, mastodons – a large elephant-type creature – and sabre-toothed tigers.

Humans were also spreading into North America, but following the sudden shift in climate which triggered the onset of the last ice age, many of these species became extinct and humans are thought to have reduced to just a few thousand individuals.

Hunting by humans is often thought to have hurried the extinction of some of the giant mammals including mammoths, but scientists increasingly believe the main culprit was the sudden shift in climate.

Three years ago scientists at the University of Oregon found evidence of exotic materials, including nanodiamonds, in the 12,900 year old sediments that they claimed had come from a comet impact with the Earth.

Professor Scott and Tyrone Daulton, a materials expert at Washington University, believe that these diamonds were misidentified and they could find no evidence for a comet collision.

Dr Douglas Kennett, who led the University of Oregon team that first identified the nanodiamonds and suggested the comet theory, told Science magazine that Professor Scott and his colleagues had been looking in the wrong place.

"The claim that we have misidentified diamonds is false and misleading," he said.
 
They'll do anything to preserve the steady-state of the solar system so they can sleep at night. These are the same types of personalities that become religious true-believers, too.
 
Yes, the impact theory is not made less probable by these interpretations, in my opinion. We still have to explain why several species of large mammals died suddenly and why this occurred in North America and Siberia at approx the same time.
 
hithere said:
Yes, the impact theory is not made less probable by these interpretations, in my opinion. We still have to explain why several species of large mammals died suddenly and why this occurred in North America and Siberia at approx the same time.

Not to mention a MOUNTAIN of other evidence. If you haven't read "Cataclysm" by Allan and Delair, do so. It's just a big compendium of evidence, citation after citation until the whole mainstream scientific established version stinks to high heaven.
 
It always makes for an easier read if the author(s) try to inject some humour into the subject matter, looking forward to reading this!
 
They claimed these nanodiamonds were formed by the massive forces and temperatures created by an impact strike.

Experts said the presence of these nanodiamonds were evidence of a devastating impact by a comet or meteor, which threw millions of tonnes of dust into the atmosphere, causing the planet to cool.

However, researchers at Washington University in St Louis, Missouri, and Royal Hollway University of London, have found that these carbon crystals are not diamonds at all and are in fact clumps of another form of carbon known as graphene which commonly forms in sediments.

Ground-Breaking Method To Make Graphene From Garbage Is Modern-Day Alchemy
In addition to cometary explosions, if our Sun micro-novas, or some nearby star novas, this breakthrough in making graphene could provide a mechanism of how these wide spread layers of carbon (extinction boundaries) are formed. (Robert W Felix' book "Magnetic Reversals and Evolutionary Leaps" also suggests these high energy events create "fossil fuels", also.)
The study shows that a split-second, super-hot flash of electricity focused on any item containing carbon — including a plastic water bottle, a worn out rubber tire or even food waste — reorders the carbon atoms to produce graphene. All chemical bonds are broken, forcing all the other elements to escape as gases, leaving behind a super-strong lattice of carbon just one atom thick.


The burst of energy that heats up the item to over 5000°F is so precisely focused that making half a kilogram of this “flash graphene” would only use the same amount of energy as running a standard dishwasher for 30 minutes. No solvents or chemicals of any kind are used.
 
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