Developing Your Psychic Skills

Chu

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ARC said:
Rx - I had an opposite experience. Since I was very little I always had predictions of the future but great difficulty recalling events from the past. About 15 years ago I made a major breakthrough in putting together the pieces of a fractured past but now I haven't had a prediction in more than 10 years.

You're probably better off for that, ARC. :) Healing the past can help you act more consciously in the present. The future, however, is open! Many things can change from the time the prediction is made and when it's supposed to take place.
 

ARC

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"You're probably better off for that, ARC. :) Healing the past can help you act more consciously in the present. The future, however, is open! Many things can change from the time the prediction is made and when it's supposed to take place."

I wasn't complaining. Yet I "predict" I may get more predictions if and when I need them.

ARC
 

dredger

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Hello all,
I was wondering to open a new thread about the "sylva method", but when I read this thread's subject, why not posting here.
Fact is that I heard quite ofently about this method these last months, people i know who followed it ... and ... yes, i'm a bit skeptic now.

I came again on this subject as I recently watched an old video (tv show) during the 80 of a well known french quebec priest (Mr Jean Paul Regimbal on ITW in 1983) who made a serie of shows/emissions speaking about NWO and illuminatis - and he mentioned the sylva method for mind controlling. I also read a fast quote saying something like if you use this method, you auto-program yourself to be then "programmable" ...

Here's a negative article I found about this method : http://www.skepdic.com/silva.html
It's interresting to read the comments + comments of the author on a big comment made : http://www.skepdic.com/comments/silvacom.html
Also this page discussing about : http://www.healthypages.com/community/threads/silva-method-or-silva-mind-control.6107/
... and probably many others.

I don't want to do such course, but my friend was proposed to follow one, and I read that this is not much indicated for people in low energy mode (not happy or depressed) - so, I would like to know more about. I searched on the forum before posting, some mentioning the method, but no real discussion on it. Maybe open a new thread, but it's a good one here I think. I would be really interrested to know the advise of the people here about this method, is it a big "new age and corrupted method" to avoid or a true good self-training one ?

Thanks
 

Yupo

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Is the Silva Method part of the human potential movement? I was wary of it when I looked at it.

Wondering if any here have found a correlation of long hair and increased sensitivity?
 

3DStudent

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Yupo said:
Wondering if any here have found a correlation of long hair and increased sensitivity?

I've never had long hair so I cannot say, but this thread talks about the potential psychic and health aspects of long hair.
 

Buddy

The Living Force
dredger said:
Hello all,

Hi dredger

dredger said:
I don't want to do such course, but my friend was proposed to follow one, and I read that this is not much indicated for people in low energy mode (not happy or depressed) - so, I would like to know more about. I searched on the forum before posting, some mentioning the method, but no real discussion on it. Maybe open a new thread, but it's a good one here I think. I would be really interrested to know the advise of the people here about this method, is it a big "new age and corrupted method" to avoid or a true good self-training one ?

Thanks

So you're really asking with a friend in mind?

I'm just one person, but my general position on most self-improvement systems is that if a method or system leaves out the "chop wood, carry water" part, then it may not be actual brain re-wiring of a kind that can have permanent benefits that you would approve of.

There's a time for meditation; there's a time for visualization and other sedentary things you can do, but there's also a necessity for making time for physical implementation. Doing research, forming hypotheses, testing them, putting knowledge to work and seeing results in your relationships, using feedback to make corrections...all that sort of thing and more, in wider and wider scopes of your life in an attempt to become the best person you can be, to gain consistency at it and achieve your specific aims.

Also, there's a phenomena called context-based recall that probably ought to be given some thought, too. Whatever you manage to do or improve while your brain is grooving with alpha ways predominately, may only be available while in that state. If you can't take something with you into your everyday situations, how can you effect any useful change via the practice? And if we can take alpha state into all our everyday situations, and alpha is a state of light sleep, are we any better off than the light-sleep-trance-state Gurdjieff says we're already in? Or is that something different? What do you think?

So, there's some things to think about. It seems to be getting harder and harder for me to answer questions like what you ask because I'm really not understanding what the attraction to these 'systems and methods' is all about...except in the most general terms, I guess.
 

monotonic

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What you said about Silva making people more suggestible and controllable stands out to me as most likely, based on what I've heard about these sort of things over time. I think that even if the teaching itself was benign, that the school would be full of predators who would use it against you. It would probably also be a good way to get uncomfortably close to "black magician" types and all the possibilities for abduction, abuse etc of you and perhaps more importantly your children if you have any.
 

dredger

Dagobah Resident
Buddy said:
So you're really asking with a friend in mind?

Yeah, i prefered to employ the term friend now, but she's my ex girlfriend and she's ... opening.

Buddy said:
I'm just one person, but my general position on most self-improvement systems is that if a method or system leaves out the "chop wood, carry water" part, then it may not be actual brain re-wiring of a kind that can have permanent benefits that you would approve of.

Well, I want to say first that it's difficult for me to traduct english expressions, or maybe because it's more US english than UK. But if I well understood what you mean : that if you don't have a part of "do the lessons, train, practice by yourself" but just a "come one day here and you'll become psychically evolved" then better avoid, then yes, i totally agree.

Buddy said:
There's a time for meditation; there's a time for visualization and other sedentary things you can do, but there's also a necessity for making time for physical implementation. Doing research, forming hypotheses, testing them, putting knowledge to work and seeing results in your relationships, using feedback to make corrections...all that sort of thing and more, in wider and wider scopes of your life in an attempt to become the best person you can be, to gain consistency at it and achieve your specific aims.
Oh yes totally agree - but here you are already out of the scope of my question which could be summarized by : is the sylva method good or bad, in general terms. Is it worth it or to avoid when you start in this domain ? Testimonies or advises from members who did it, or analysed this method would be interresting to read. It's juste because this method is well known here in Belgium, I just want to ensure it's not something ... kinda "corrupted".

Buddy said:
Also, there's a phenomena called context-based recall that probably ought to be given some thought, too. Whatever you manage to do or improve while your brain is grooving with alpha ways predominately, may only be available while in that state. If you can't take something with you into your everyday situations, how can you effect any useful change via the practice? And if we can take alpha state into all our everyday situations, and alpha is a state of light sleep, are we any better off than the light-sleep-trance-state Gurdjieff says we're already in? Or is that something different? What do you think?

So, there's some things to think about. It seems to be getting harder and harder for me to answer questions like what you ask because I'm really not understanding what the attraction to these 'systems and methods' is all about...except in the most general terms, I guess.

Well, it's more about what you says at the end : she's opening about all of this, she's has sensibilities in her hands and tends to help others, she wants to learn and train about the practice, and she searches for courses to start to understand all of this. As i'm not personnally doing meditation and did not get nor have much information on all of this domain, I can't answer her, that's why i came here just after having heard that the sylva method was, as far as I understood, not so good or adapted to anybody as it would seem to be. I'm just trying to get better information here, and it's specifically about the sylva method, and at the same time I'll learn more about it and more about this general domain this thread is about.

FYI, she only learnt english at school and lost almost all, she could not come here and post, except in the french section (she's french teacher), but it would reach a minority of the community, that's why i came here to post in the general forum in english. If a french member of the community get by here and wants to communicate directly with her, she would for sure appreciate.

Thanks for your time
 

dredger

Dagobah Resident
monotonic said:
What you said about Silva making people more suggestible and controllable stands out to me as most likely, based on what I've heard about these sort of things over time. I think that even if the teaching itself was benign, that the school would be full of predators who would use it against you. It would probably also be a good way to get uncomfortably close to "black magician" types and all the possibilities for abduction, abuse etc of you and perhaps more importantly your children if you have any.

Hi monotonic, thanks for this - we'll continue to dig into the subject and I'll come here to post any useful information to add. It makes me think about the explanation by Gurdjieff of the "law of 9", when any good thing always end up doing the contrary of its initial purpose.
 

Buddy

The Living Force
dredger said:
- but here you are already out of the scope of my question which could be summarized by : is the sylva method good or bad, in general terms.

The question "is it good or bad?" is about the widest scope of question that can be asked about a subject that pertains to human well-being, so I would have thought anything I said would fit into that scope. But, OK. I do have an opinion because I tried a bit of it years ago, but my feelings are that, for me, self-hypnosis is just silly and a waste of time. Instead of trying to convince myself that my tennis backhand is improved, I could just go out and practice it, learn more about it and have more fun in the process. That's an analogy for all the other possible goals as well. As for psychic abilities, I can do without them or accept them when and if they come.

I'm sure it worked for José Silva in some way(s). After all, he totally changed his life, writing books and starting a business that seems to be doing well and seems to be supporting his family and work associates. It's just not for me.
 
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