Beirut Explosion

Suxhi

Padawan Learner
We know what the explosion was made of, and it seems it was common knowledge that the ammonium nitrate was there at the docks. Might be a easy way to get the docks gone if you say you were concerned about Iran and Hezbollah using it for operations against Israel or you wanted to blame Israel to get Lebanon you your side. So many choices with not enough data...
 

Ocean

The Living Force
Beirut explosion was not only NOT accidental, it was also carefully controlled, according to this.

Swarms of drones are even implicated!

"A microdrone or nanodrone hit the back of his head, and ejected a cloud of explosive vapor that enveloped him and exploded INWARD, therefore not harming the people right beside him"

Click on the link to view the full thread.

 

maxwell1110

Jedi Master
Very shocking and aweful to watch. So tragic for those in Beirut and at what seems to be such a strategic location. 🤔

First thought was secret team strikes again. Second thought was the fireworks narrative is used a lot and reminded me of this from 2016:


Example of an actual massive fireworks explosion looks much different in the video than what we’re seeing went off in Beruit IMO - that looked like a bomb or ‘wildfire’:umm:
 

Beorn

Dagobah Resident
FOTCM Member
I'm suspicious of the ammonium nitrate narrative. Ammonium nitrate is an oxidizer so it causes other things to be more combustible but isn't very combustible itself. Also the smoke of the large explosion looks to be a deep red to me and I thought ammonium nitrate had a white smoke. I could be wrong of course. Just a few thoughts.

This old video shows how it works.

 

Ocean

The Living Force
The plot thickens, Netanyahu raises his ugly head.


 

Keit

Ambassador
Ambassador
FOTCM Member
Well, considering all the demonstrations in Israel against Netanyahu, it would be logical to think that he could use it to gain support and admit that Israel has something to do with it. But apparently they are "strongly denying it", and even Debka.com (a site that in the past was known for releasing all kind of Israeli intelligence propaganda and disinfo) says the following:

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And while it is clear that Israel probably DID have something to do with it, I wonder why would they deny it so "emphaticaly".
 

Seppo Ilmarinen

Dagobah Resident
FOTCM Member
And while it is clear that Israel probably DID have something to do with it, I wonder why would they deny it so "emphaticaly".

Finnish embassy got destroyed in the blast (no one was inside at the time), and there were also embassies of Australia (one australian citizen died) and Cyprus that got damaged. There could also be other Western casualties that makes Israel want to downplay their possible role in it.



 

Keit

Ambassador
Ambassador
FOTCM Member
Finnish embassy got destroyed in the blast (no one was inside at the time), and there were also embassies of Australia (one australian citizen died) and Cyprus that got damaged. There could also be other Western casualties that makes Israel want to downplay their possible role in it.

Thank you for the explanation.

Russians are sending 5 planes with medical staff and help to Beirut.

Hopefully there will be also specialists, who will help Lebanese with the investigation, even if covertly.
 

sToRmR1dR

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
'Why am I not surprised?'

2020-08-04

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The most powerful "cotton" in the port of Beirut has been compared to Hiroshima. Video
2020-08-05
At the moment, not happy news comes from Beirut - as a result of the incident, at least six thousand people have suffered, however, what exactly caused the incident is unknown. According to experts, the cause of the detonation could be an external factor, in particular, the IDF is suspected, since Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu mentioned the port of Beirut only a few days ago, calling this part of Lebanon a threat.

The Hezbollah and the Resistance movement's allies would be accused as main culprits.

By Mehdi Azizi - Aug 5, 2020
 

thorbiorn

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Regarding the size of the fireball, which in the post by @Approaching Infinity was used to calculate the size of the explosion, someone posted a picture on Twitter:
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It appears as if there is more smoke in the area towards the sea, which may explain why the fireball is not very visible in the recording taken from the sea, that I used in a post. On the above picture, one sees a boat in the port behind the white silos and to the left of the rising smoke. Is that the boat that took the pictures from the sea?

The Lebanese paper Daily Star says 100 people still missing and that there by now are more than 100 fatalities and 4000 injured. The National New Agency quoted the Associated Press regarding what Trump had said about the incident.
NNA - President Donald Trump said U.S. military generals have told him that they "seem to feel" the massive explosion that rocked Beirut on Tuesday, killing at least 70 people, was a "terrible attack" likely caused by a bomb. [...] Trump offered condolences to the victims and said the United States stood ready to assist Lebanon. "It looks like a terrible attack," he said. ---- Associated Press
But if the idea of an attack will run, where will the blame end? Even if it is decided that it is a pure accident, what influenced the minds of those who allowed the explosives to be stored or concentrated in such amounts in such a vulnerable location? Were the explosives that allegedly were confiscated meant to be just that, knowing where they would be stored? The story behind the ship with nitrate is according to a Russian site:
Ammonium nitrate, which exploded in the port in Beirut, was confiscated from the ship, the owner of which was a native of Khabarovsk, the sailors said. According to them, he declared bankruptcy and "actually abandoned the ship»

Ammonium nitrate (ammonium nitrate), which exploded during welding in Beirut, was confiscated from a ship called Rhosus in September 2014. This was reported by the LBCI TV channel with reference to the results of the meeting of the Supreme Defense Council of Lebanon.

Rhosus transported 2,750 tonnes of saltpeter from Batumi to Mozambique. In September 2013, it made an unscheduled stop in Beirut due to a malfunction on board.

After checking the ship, the crew was forbidden to take it out of the port. The saltpeter confiscated from the vessel was stored in a warehouse at the 12th berth of the port of Beirut, it was supposed to be disposed of. Due to the dangerous cargo remaining on the vessel, the Lebanese authorities left four sailors on board to wait for the replacement crew.

In total, there were eight Ukrainian sailors on board, said Natalya Klamm, executive director of the Odessa Assol Seafarers' Assistance Fund. “After the sailors with our help turned to the Ukrainian consul, five of our compatriots were able to return home. To keep the vessel alive, four crew members remained on board: three Ukrainians and one Russian, ”she said.

The remaining crew members returned from Lebanon only a year later.
 

c.a.

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Hassan Diab says agricultural fertilizer stored for years in a portside warehouse blew up in massive explosion heard in Cyprus, 150 miles away

BEIRUT, Lebanon (AFP) — Two enormous explosions devastated Beirut’s port on Tuesday, leaving at least 73 people dead and thousands injured, shaking distant buildings and spreading panic and chaos across the Lebanese capital.

The second blast sent an enormous orange fireball into the sky, immediately followed by a tornado-like shockwave that flattened the port and swept the city, shattering windows kilometres (miles) away.

Prime Minister Hassan Diab said that 2,750 tonnes of the agricultural fertilizer ammonium nitrate that had been stored for years in a portside warehouse had blown up, sparking “a disaster in every sense of the word.”

Bloodied and dazed injured people stumbled among the debris, glass shards and burning buildings in central Beirut as the health ministry reported 73 dead and 3,700 injured across wide parts of the country’s biggest city.

“What happened today will not pass without accountability,” said Diab. “Those responsible for this catastrophe will pay the price.”

General Security chief Abbas Ibrahim earlier said the “highly explosive material” had been confiscated years earlier and stored in the warehouse, just minutes walk from Beirut’s shopping and nightlife districts.

The blasts were so massive they shook the entire city and could be heard throughout the small country, and as far away as Nicosia on the eastern Mediterranean island of Cyprus, 240 kilometres (150 miles) away.

A soldier at the port, where relatives of the missing scrambled for news of their loved ones, told AFP: “It’s a catastrophe inside. There are corpses on the ground. Ambulances are still lifting the dead.”

“It was like an atomic bomb,” said Makrouhie Yerganian, a retired schoolteacher in her mid-70s who has lived near the port for decades.

“I’ve experienced everything, but nothing like this before,” even during the country’s 1975-1990 civil war, she said.

“All the buildings around here have collapsed.”

Her 91-year-old uncle, who lived in the same building, was injured in the blast and later died.

AFP correspondents across the city saw shop and apartment windows blown out and streets covered with broken glass.

Photos posted online even showed damage to the inside of Beirut airport’s terminal, some nine kilometres from the explosion.

Hospitals already struggling with the country’s coronavirus outbreak were overwhelmed by the influx of injured and the country’s Red Cross called for urgent blood donations.

We saw the mushroom

As the national defense council declared Beirut a disaster zone, Diab appealed to Lebanon’s allies to “stand by” the country and “help us treat these deep wounds.”

Condolences poured in from across the world with Gulf nations, the United States and even Lebanon’s arch foe Israel offering to send aid.

AFP video footage showed areas of near-complete devastation, with cars flipped onto their roofs like children’s toys, warehouses flattened and survivors drenched from head to toe in their own blood.

“We heard an explosion, then we saw the mushroom,” said a Beirut resident who witnessed the second deafening explosion from her balcony in the city’s Mansourieh district.

“The force of the blast threw us backwards into the apartment.”

An AFP correspondent at the scene minutes after said every shop in the Hamra commercial district had sustained damage, with entire storefronts destroyed and many cars wrecked.

A huge blaze sent up black smoke from the port area, as helicopters dumped water on burning buildings.

A ship moored off the port was on fire, and the blasts also damaged a vessel deployed with United Nations peacekeeping force UNIFIL and injured some of its personnel.

Like an earthquake

Hundreds immediately shared their shock and grief on social media.

“Buildings are shaking,” tweeted one resident, while another wrote: “An enormous, deafening explosion just engulfed Beirut. Heard it from miles away.”

Online footage from a Lebanese newspaper office showed blown out windows, scattered furniture and demolished interior paneling.

The explosions hit a country already reeling from its worst economic crisis in decades which has left nearly half of the population in poverty, as well as from the coronavirus pandemic.

Lebanon’s economy has collapsed in recent months, with the local currency plummeting, businesses closing en masse and poverty soaring at the same alarming rate as unemployment.

Charity Save the Children said “the incident could not have occurred at a worse time.”

The explosions came three days before a UN tribunal’s verdict on the murder of former Lebanese premier Rafik Hariri, who was killed in a huge 2005 truck bomb attack.

Four alleged members of the Shiite Muslim terror group Hezbollah are on trial in absentia at the court in the Netherlands over the huge Beirut bombing that killed Sunni billionaire Hariri and 21 other people.

WARNING GRAPHIC: People were filmed receiving treatment at St. Joseph Hospital in #Beirut as the death toll climbs to 78 with 4,000 injured following a huge explosion on Tue. Lebanese PM declared a "national day of mourning" for the victims #PrayforLebanon

OMG. Due to covid19, they televised this mass so that believers could join in from home. Then the #Beirut explosion took place. Horrible.

 
An interesting comment from a user at Sputniknews website:

By tw:
Stupid people allowing stupid people to store munitions in close proximity to dense populations..hoping to deter other STUPID people from attacking it.. Ammonium nitrate has to be mixed with diesel fuel to become explosive.. so ..in dry bags it is just "fertiliser"...harmless...
it also needs a detonator .. it will not fire off on its own even if you throw matches on it ..it will just burn.. the detonator is the key...it was designed and it was deliberate for the two things required to make an explosion of it..fuel (diesel or other) and a detonator..
I have handled this stuff day to day in blasting rock coal etc for many years and it is safe barring the detonator ..which could be as little as a spark from a tiny battery.. BUT no good without the diesel?? fuel .. My summation is that it was deliberate.. You could bomb a whole warehouse of ammonium nitrate if it did not have the diesel (or other) mixed and all you would have is...puff.. the explosives use in the bombing.. the rest would just ..do nothing.. absolutely nothing

Link of the article:


1.- He seems to have a very good knowledge of Detonators and Ammonium Nitrate question is How the Diesel managed to get in contact with the Ammonium???

2.- The fireworks of the first explosion where just distraction (Detonator) for the Diesel provably arriving (or stocked) in the port, for it to get in contact with the Ammonium.

3.- What kind of intelligence is needed to have all that information at hand to do just items 1 and 2 ??? it smells as a Mossad Plot.

Just my two cents... :cool2::cool2::cool2:
 
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