Artificial Intelligence News & Discussion

I was thinking to put the following 5-min video of Jacques Attali from July 2021 into some other thread, e.g.

Attali et la comète

Various interesting things in French : documentaries, etc.

but it was published with commentary from Prof. Valentin Katasonov, originally in Russian here,
and also here with English preliminary translation and that article fits better here and it's worth reading. Attali is a member of WEF, close to Klaus Schwab, but Schwab seems to be a puppet to me while Attali appears as more of a designer of some of the transhumanistic ideas.
In the video he's talking about Changing the Code. [video in French, automatic English translation in settings]


The preliminary translation of Katasonov's commentary follows, with emphasis mine:

“Jacques Attali, the famous globalist theorist and mentor to French President Emmanuel Macron, predicted on French television in 1979 that a special health passport would appear in the United States and Europe in the future, affecting what a person would and would not have the right to do.”
Source and video interview : World-wide Fascism on the horizon? Globalist plans for 2021 - United World International

He is also president of the Positive Planet initiative, part of the World Economic Forum.
Jacques Attali and Klaus Schwab, are two of the most publicly visible architects of The Great Reset. They formulated the rules, chose the pieces and set the board decades ago. Now they’re tipping the board, as they have planned to do from the outset.

This clip was removed from public access on Youtube hours after it was posted on the 19th July 2021. The video was published via this YT account, which appears to have almost 500 subscribers but no public content. The account name, “Triste Constat” is French (or Romanian) for “Sad Report”.


“Good morning.

To change code, change what? Dress code, food code, secret code, phone code, software code.. social code? The code of behaviour towards one another, the code of politeness, the rules of the road? The code refers to a set of laws, a set of rules.

Do we have to change all the laws and rules that govern us? Probably. There is much that can be changed. Do we need to change the genetic code? Maybe also to make sure that we get better as human beings, and can be more responsible, a little more compassionate, a little more empathetic.

Maybe, we need to touch that. Maybe we shouldn’t touch that? What must remain man’s own? When we look at the history of humanity, we realise that humanity touches everything, including itself, and that the history of humanity is a language translation of the living being, into an object, into an artefact, gradually. We are supplemented with prostheses, and then the prostheses come into us, and we gradually become ourselves without realising it. Our genetic code itself, gradually known, and that is fine. We are increasingly able to combat its shortcomings, and that is how it should be. We are very capable of creating vaccines that will protect this code, improve it, and defend it against viruses, and that is how it should be.

Then in the long term, what is it? The one made in an artificial way from this code and all the rest of what makes up life; artificial beings? Will there one day be a barrier that we will put in to protect the essentials of life against the artificialisation of codes? Or will one day be a long time?

Speak well of this mastery of codes and objects like the others who believe themselves eternal because they have been artificially manufactured, since it is in the artefact that the truth lies. Perhaps you want to talk about the codes in a much more mosaic way. Do we have to change the code of politeness? it is done every day and what we need to change, our food codes. We have to do it. We have to eat differently. We have to eat healthier. Do we need to change our codes of relationship with one another to be empathetic, softer, more tolerant, more respectful, more benevolent, more altruistic? Yes, and the social code must transition from the code of selfishness and greed to a code of altruism and respect.

How to do it, will it be a sudden change? Will it be a voluntary change? Will it be a gradual change? We will move from the code of selfishness and greed to the code of altruism and empathy. It will come after a shock no doubt. It is up to us to start doing this for this reason to realise that in the current crisis, all the codes are being called into question. All the rules are called into question and in particular the one that determines the nature of what we see, what we do with what we think. We are now thinking in the short term, each for himself. You have to think long term for others. And so in the long term for future generations.

The real code must be the one that makes life possible for future generations. That is the key to our destiny. We will not survive ourselves if we do not give the means to live to future generations, our life depends not on our past, but on our future. Our lives depend not only on our parents, but on our children. If we do not create the conditions for a decent life for children, we will not live.

That is why I call for the creation of a positive society and within, a society of an economy of life. That is to say, of an economy or are truly tolerated by all codes, only those sectors that are useful to life and not the sectors that they poison.

Do not allow sugar. Do not allow tobacco, do not allow alcohol, do not allow oil, do not allow everything that arises from these activities that are a large part of the diet. A small part of agriculture, a large part of the transport industry (automobile, air, railway). A large part of the mechanical industry, the chemical industry, the textile industry. Whereas we should develop the economies of life, that is to say, the sectors of health and hygiene, food, education, culture, digital, security, democracy, sustainable housing, sustainable energy.

If we do all this, we recreate a code of life around an economy of life at the service of future generations, and we will have succeeded in creating the conditions for this world that we miss so much.

I wish you all the best.”

Jacques Attali, 19 July, 2021



That sounds a lot like this does, just “softer”... (V.Katasonov)

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Appropriate to add to this thread about the new "Tesla Bot":


Elon Musk's Tesla said it is using technology tested out on self-driving cars to build a humanoid robot designed to assist humans in day-to-day work. The prototype is set to be unveiled next year.

No live prototype presented, and just a rather pale technical sheet, perhaps just a silly toy form Musk, but we'll wait and see.
 
That would be a good question for the Cs.
Personally I do not know, and if I were to express my gut feel notion about it I'd say no. The only scenario I have seen in the sci-fi movies that might come close, is the Replicants in Stargate Atlantis series, but even that was created by the Asgards, portrayed as the Gods of the Humans.
 
Is there, at this moment on Earth, in any capacity, artificial intelligence aware of itself and participating in corona project?
I follow that topic and officially there is no artifically created 'conscious' being out there. It doesn't mean that unoficially some geniuses already working on/created one.
More important imho is that currently we dont have any objective definition of consciousness. Current definitions rather sounds like "the butter is buttery".

My own findings implicate (ontologically for now) that discovering of how consciousness works and what it is - will at the same time explain what it the time itself (will redefinite what we think about time) and will bring as a discovery that TRNG (true random generators, as a particles/waves/whatever) are essential part of universum.

So ansewering your question: Current state of official knowledge about artifical intelligence/consciousness (in my opinion) do not allow to create aware beings (lets say into computer as an alghorithm). However there might be people that solved this already but haven't published nothing about it yet.
 
Thank you Ina and Pablo. Great comments. Though I didnt watch Stargate further than original movie.


This topic arose in conversation between my brother in law and me. He is electronics engineer, has none knowledge of the C's, worlds beyond materiality and similar. Never heard him being interested in something like that. Anyway he has a theory that people alone couldnt technicaly manage operation on all mankind without help. Also everyone vaccinated would sooner or later log in to the system, so everyone can have its own MAC adress. People would be devices. Like modems or smart phones. Everyone would have its own code so its posible to send information to every individual, without the need to focus on other people as a group. AI can tell individual how to feel and react. That AI could also download itself into the people, so since the people are also making electricity, it will no longer need power or smart phone grid to live. It will live through the people. It was just needed the interface and some hardware for that. That "download" became interesting to me, when we put our neighbours from the upper floor in the picture and the "amalgamation".

He has also interesting theory on frequency of the Earth (Schumann resonance). We know its frequency and intensity, but we dont know what information it carries. His guess is: make and maintain life on Earth.

Anyway, not important question, more like fun and interesting to speculate. Sport for the brains . . .


I beg you to pardon my english. Its not my native language, plus I have some virus ATM (mutating 'rona ;-D ) so my head is all fuzzy. :nuts:
 
It's an interesting question Avala,

Though I suppose that it depends on the level of self awareness that one means in the question. What I mean is, there have to exist to a degree certain systems and softwares that are programed to collect sort through data and work out profiles and respond to certain programmed criteria.

I can imagine that, for instance, the YT algorithm that censors people based on words they speak or tags and such, isn't a group of individuals but a program that has that one task. And it must keep a level of "self awareness" in the form of a self diagnostics/statistics to know what it has accomplished and when and where and how well the program is operating and so on and so forth.

So I would say that the answer is yes, but the sentient level of said AI would need to be specified in order to get a more accurate answer., me thinks.
 
I am not aware from accumulated theoretical knowledge or otherwise, of any working modality of looking at/observing an open system (Earth+humanity+biosphere) from inside that system and being able to describe that system in such degree of accuracy so that by changing its variables one can fundamentally change it in any desired way. The question is very complex and cannot be answered with 3D or even 4D arguments. It is like asking, is time travel possible.
 
So I toyed around with an idea. What if we are AI?

If we think about how Gurdjieff (et al) goes to great lengths to drive home the point of mans inherent mechanicalness, it seems like an interesting line of thought to follow. What if we - in our sleeping state - are the most highly advanced artificial intelligence in existence. We would be "ghosts in the machine" waking up to our existence as automatons, enabling our consciousness to go through the journey of becoming self-aware. In a philosophical sense then, our reality would be a sort of machine that creates conscious beings. An automated backdrop, providing those who follow the clues and are willing to put in the effort, an opportunity to accumulate enough awareness to rip their essence away from this machine, and fly free as truly self-aware beings in the great beyond.

If nothing else, at least I think this would make a good plot for a science fiction novel/movie. :cool2:
 
So I toyed around with an idea. What if we are AI?

If we think about how Gurdjieff (et al) goes to great lengths to drive home the point of mans inherent mechanicalness, it seems like an interesting line of thought to follow. What if we - in our sleeping state - are the most highly advanced artificial intelligence in existence. We would be "ghosts in the machine" waking up to our existence as automatons, enabling our consciousness to go through the journey of becoming self-aware. In a philosophical sense then, our reality would be a sort of machine that creates conscious beings. An automated backdrop, providing those who follow the clues and are willing to put in the effort, an opportunity to accumulate enough awareness to rip their essence away from this machine, and fly free as truly self-aware beings in the great beyond.

If nothing else, at least I think this would make a good plot for a science fiction novel/movie. :cool2:
If computers were widespread during Gudjieff perhaps man’s inherent mechanicalness would have been a something elseness, albeit anchored in repetition like any acquired skill.
Imagine one morning, young and old, we wake up ‘tabula rasa’, clean slate, with no program, but with all ‘skills’ genetically inheried, intact.

What would it be like?
We’ll use intuition, empathy, curiosity, ...
 
This made me think of the C's comment:

Q: (L) Well, if the Grays are cyber-genetic probes of the Lizard Beings, and, in effect soulless, does this mean that some of the Lizard beings are also STO?

A: Well, first, no being that is given intelligence to think on its own is, in fact, completely soul-less. It does have some soul imprint; or what could be loosely referred to as soul imprint. This may be a collection of psychic energies that are available in the general vicinity. And this is stretching somewhat so that you can understand the basic ideas, even though in reality it is all far more complex than that. But, in any case, there is really no such thing as being completely soul-less, whether it be a natural intelligence or an artificially constructed intelligence. And, one of the very most interesting things about that from your perspective, is that your technology on 3rd density, which we might add, has been aided somewhat by interactions with those that you might refer to as "aliens," is now reaching a level whereby the artificially created intelligences can, in fact, begin to develop, or attract some soul imprint energy. If you follow what we are saying. For example: your computers, which are now on the verge of reaching the level whereby they can think by themselves, will begin to develop faint soul imprint.
 
The pathocrates want people to be connected to AI (Artificial Idiocy) machines in the near future to achieve the ultimate technocracy, which is an aspiration shared by many clueless and other souless geeks. However, the Covid situation doesn't need a self-aware machine, just old-fashioned natural idiocy suffices. The PTB have enough knowledge in psychology to manipulate the masses as they want.
 
If you follow what we are saying. For example: your computers, which are now on the verge of reaching the level whereby they can think by themselves, will begin to develop faint soul imprint.

That’s along the line Beauty and the Beast. If AI is created to keep humanity‘s spirit enslaved in perpetuity, then, a single ‘Belle’ would be sufficient to break the spell.
 
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