Advice or opinions needed - I do not want to go to the doctors yet 😳

[Quasicrystal]

I’m trying really hard to research natural remedies to stop My menstrual cycle without having to go to the doctors. I went to my gynecologist about 4 years ago and got my check up completed due to awful and inconsistent periods. He said everything came back okay and that I just had an enlarged ovary. His option was get a hysterectomy or deal with the bleeding. I have dealt with inconsistent periods my entire life so they just come when they come And have only been a little heavy but never lasted over a week. At 51 I would say maybe I have been experiencing signs of pre menopause over the last six months. Hot flashes are real people , but I have been on my period daily for over a month Now and I’m trying to find an alternative so that I don’t have to go into any hospital for any procedure due to COVID rules and lockdowns. I do take my vitamins daily and I am not feeling anemic. Are there any woman on here that have dealt with enlarged ovaries? I have been trying to research threads but I don’t think I am searching properly to find any links or discussions in regards to this subject. I appreciate any reply or link. Thank you in advance.

 

[Jones]

Hi Quasicrystal, have you had blood tests? Also what is your diet like?

 

[Igneous40]

I’m trying really hard to research natural remedies to stop My menstrual cycle without having to go to the doctors. I went to my gynecologist about 4 years ago and got my check up completed due to awful and inconsistent periods. He said everything came back okay and that I just had an enlarged ovary. His option was get a hysterectomy or deal with the bleeding. I have dealt with inconsistent periods my entire life so they just come when they come And have only been a little heavy but never lasted over a week. At 51 I would say maybe I have been experiencing signs of pre menopause over the last six months. Hot flashes are real people , but I have been on my period daily for over a month Now and I’m trying to find an alternative so that I don’t have to go into any hospital for any procedure due to COVID rules and lockdowns. I do take my vitamins daily and I am not feeling anemic. Are there any woman on here that have dealt with enlarged ovaries? I have been trying to research threads but I don’t think I am searching properly to find any links or discussions in regards to this subject. I appreciate any reply or link. Thank you in advance.

My dear,
Wow, that is a rough go....
Please allow me to offer my 2 cents.

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I have shared the above website to allow you to look into this side of things and see if that modality resomates with you. There are far reaching benefits beyond menstrual regulation.
My advice is to find such a clinic or doctor in your town who deals with what is offered on the above website as a practice and just call them up and have a chat and see where it goes from there. See if it resonates with you.
Hang in there. Thank you.

 

[Quasicrystal]

No I have not been to the doctor yet so no blood test. My diet could be better. I have years of bad eating habits. Normally I go to work and drink coffee while skipping breakfast and lunch and then I eat supper. Yes I can drink coffee all day long. Over the last couple of months I have been trying to limit coffee to two cups in the morning and have been trying to create a better habit of getting lunch. I work in a high stress job and most lunches I get are partly cold by the time I eat. After 20 plus years of doing this it is extremely difficult to change eating habits and I feel like I am forcing myself to eat although I am not hungry. I have also tried to limit Sugars (I.e. ice cream, cookies, candles, sodas etc...) I have been trying to drink more water daily also. I take vitamin C, D, B, Zinc, magnesium daily and I try to take iodine and selenium daily as well but not at the same time as I take my C’s. I am a smoker and the Irish in me can’t skip the occasional beer. I know when I researched menopause to do’s and not to do’s the article I read stated that coffee, smoking and alcohol should all be cut out but I have been slowly decreasing all instead of quitting cold turkey. Hope this gives some insight to my diet although it’s taking me a lot to be truthful about all this. Thank you for your response.

 

[Quasicrystal]

Hi Quasicrystal, have you had blood tests? Also what is your diet like?

No I have not been to the doctor yet so no blood test. My diet could be better. I have years of bad eating habits. Normally I go to work and drink coffee while skipping breakfast and lunch and then I eat supper. Yes I can drink coffee all day long. Over the last couple of months I have been trying to limit coffee to two cups in the morning and have been trying to create a better habit of getting lunch. I work in a high stress job and most lunches I get are partly cold by the time I eat. After 20 plus years of doing this it is extremely difficult to change eating habits and I feel like I am forcing myself to eat although I am not hungry. I have also tried to limit Sugars (I.e. ice cream, cookies, candles, sodas etc...) I have been trying to drink more water daily also. I take vitamin C, D, B, Zinc, magnesium daily and I try to take iodine and selenium daily as well but not at the same time as I take my C’s. I am a smoker and the Irish in me can’t skip the occasional beer. I know when I researched menopause to do’s and not to do’s the article I read stated that coffee, smoking and alcohol should all be cut out but I have been slowly decreasing all instead of quitting cold turkey. Hope this gives some insight to my diet although it’s taking me a lot to be truthful about all this. Thank you for your questions

 

[lainey]

Hello Quasicrystal,
If you are eating gluten and dairy products you may want to try cutting them out of your diet to see if your irregular menstrual cycle improves. This article talks about the link between gluten sensitivity and female hormones and this article helps explain the many issues related to consuming diary.

There is also this article which touches on a link between diet and menopause. The article also links to a book What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause.

In this expanded and completely updated edition of the classic bestselle, Dr. Lee brings you the facts about modern synthetic HRT drugs and gives you an easy-to-follow, non-prescription 'hormone balance' programme, that allows you to stay energised, strong, sexually vigorous and free from 'female problems' before, during and beyond the menopause years.
Pre-menopausal symptoms, endometriosis, weight gain, low sex drive, fibrocystic breasts, heart disease and osteoporosis - most women will experience some or all of these hormone-related problems and today millions of women concerned about aging muist decide whether to undergo synthetic HRT - and suffer its side effects and increased risk of cancer. However there is another way - natural progesterone, the only hormone supplement women may need as they age- and this book tells you all you need to know about it.

I hope this helps a little.

 

[Gaby]

Now and I’m trying to find an alternative so that I don’t have to go into any hospital for any procedure due to COVID rules and lockdowns.

It's a tricky situation to navigate considering the current hysteria. On the one hand I can understand the attitude highlighted above, on the other hand, it's just inviting problems anyway.

After a certain age, it's advisable to do a check-up. People will do check ups to their aging cars for safety reasons. It's not wise to think that you can avoid check-ups after a certain age. Diet and supplements go a long way in preventing disease, but then again, we're living in the 21st century.

I saw a woman with the lowest anemia in record due to menstrual bleeding, just because she didn't want to go to the doctor. She ended with a transfusion of 5 bags and even after that, she still had anemia.

Another woman showed up with terminal cancer because she didn't want to consult for her problems.

I see stories like that on a weekly basis, I'm just quoting the ones I remember right now from only this week.

Having said that, you can try progesterone cream. Use maximum doses suggested on the labels, and put the cream also in the labia linings for direct better absorption:

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Here's an old protocol from my archives:

FOR WOMEN:

-After ovulation on day 14 (that is, if we ovulate) we are supposed to produce around 20 to 30 mg of progesterone per day.

-The progesterone cream is usually a 2% natural progesterone, so 1/4 gives around 20mg per day. A normal low progesterone dose is of 20-60mg/day (100mg per day maximum).

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PRE-MENOPAUSE/PMS issues:

from day 12 to day 26: 1/4 to 1/2 of a teaspoon once or twice per day.

Alternatively (I distributed it roughly according to the Wiley protocol):

1/8th of a teaspoon from days 12 and 13
1/4th of a teaspoon from days 14 to 19
1/2 of a teaspoon from days 20 to 22
1/4 of a teaspoon from days 23 to 26 or until a day or so before your period starts (if you don't know when your period is going to start, just stop the cream when your period starts and count 12 days before you start it again).

Once per day (or twice if symptoms persist)

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MENOPAUSE and POST MENOPAUSE:

24 to 26 days a month, 1/4 to 1/2 of teaspoon once or twice per day.

It is important to have some days off as some spotting can occur (if this happens, use the PMS/Pre-menopause schedule and after 3 to 4 months of no spotting, you can resume the post-menopause schedule).

Perhaps people can rehearse before a hypothetical consultation. There's simply too much hysterics out there. Ask yourself, what is it that you need or want and how can you possibly get it with the least hassle possible. Be calm, charming, don't go with expectations, try not to raise red flags, don't go trying to prove a point. It's a case by case scenario, but in your place I would just say matter of fact that you are approaching menopause and your menstruation is very heavy. Do I need a blood test or another ultrasound? And leave it there. I would prioritize a general physician or family doctor. Each country has differences in their medical system. In general, in a capitalist medical system, a gynecologist might be invested in doing a hysterectomy or other invasive procedures due to biases or other factors. A general physician or family doctor is more invested in prevention and in deriving patients to the specialist only when it's really necessary.

 

[SevenFeathers]

You could consult with a homeopath, who could consider all your symptoms and lifestyle. Here's one example: Homeopathy for Perimenopause. Homeopathic Treatment Guide.

 

[Laura]

I had a similar situation many years ago. I ended up having a D&C which seemed to correct things. I was diagnosed with adenomyosis and endometriosis. But then I got pregnant. After the birth of that child, my last, I never had the problem again.

 

[Quasicrystal]

Thank you all for your replies and links. I’m going to research and will make a decision this week for sure. My husband knows of a homeopathic doctor a couple hours away and I am going to reach out to her for further information and possible appointment. I will not continue ignoring in hopes that my body starts acting correct as I have family history of cancer. Thank you again.

 

[sunshine]

.Hi Quasicrystal. I had a similar situation with menopause, I am also 51 years old. I can advise you how to stop bleeding, they are very exhausting for the body. 5 tablespoons of dry nettle are brewed for 2 cups of boiling water, insist until it cools, strain and drink throughout the day, preferably before meals, the effect does not come immediately to me for about 5 days. Another tincture of water pepper 40 drops 4-5 times a day, but no more than 5 days is possible and there are still contraindications to use, one of them is taking contraceptive drugs. I collected 2 ml from the bottle. and in the mouth, for me it was a road option, it was always in my purse along with a two-gram syringe.The doctor said I had to wait for menopause, there were hormonal injections in the abdomen, then pills, but naturally, this should be prescribed by the doctor according to the test results, choose hormonal drugs , and there are a huge number of them. Now there are only hot flashes, but this is already good, compared to two years of bleeding.

 

[Ina]

I was in a similar situation during pre-menopause and menopause due to fibroids. After you research fibroids, a visit to the gynecologist could be a good idea to confirm. The doctor can also prescribe blood tests that would show where you are in the menopause. Fibroids if problematic are removed surgically. I still have mine.

 

[Quasicrystal]

Thank you everyone. I got my check up and everything is fine except for an enlarged ovary and Doctor still recommended hysterectomy but I am bypassing that option for natural hormones. He did state my symptoms could be from menopause but I really think he was pushing hysterectomy. He did laugh with me when I told him “You did hear me say non intrusive didn’t you?” Again thank you for all feedback. I got my tune up

 

[Oxajil]

Hi Quasicrystal, if you're interested, I'd recommend reading "From Hormone Hell to Hormone Well" by Randolph Jr. and James. A little note: the authors do miss the mark on magnesium as they recommend more magnesium than calcium (the regular advice). It's better to take more magnesium than calcium as calcium is usually rich in a diet. Other than that minor thingy, it's a great read with helpful information on (natural) hormones and female life cycles, and it also contains practical information:

With devastating reports coming out about synthetic hormones, Dr. C.W. Randolph, Jr. was urged to write From Hormone Hell to Hormone Well . This book helps women around the world understand how their bodies can be treated effectively by using human-identical natural hormones - the safe way to a healthy life as the body changes.

The book is written for women suffering from the symptoms associated with PMS, perimenopause, menopause, or hysterectomy. With more than 38,000,000 women now hitting the perimenopause or menopausal years, it's important to know that there are safe options for their health. Dr. Randollph also provides insight into a woman's reproductive health as well as male menopause.

The book offers safe and effective treatments for the following: weight gain, depression, osteoporosis, mood swings, premature aging, breast health, hot flashes, low sex drive, fluid retention, and fatigue.

 

[Gwenllian]

Having said that, you can try progesterone cream. Use maximum doses suggested on the labels, and put the cream also in the labia linings for direct better absorption:

I tried progesterone cream a few years ago, but massaged it into the skin of my abdomen and so on and never detected any changes. But after reading this thread I decided to start using it again, it could help with heart health for instance, so I started this morning and applied the cream to the labia linings. I found this relevant quote of Dr. Mercola's article which Gaby posted above:

If you apply the cream to your mucous epithelial membranes that line your uterus and vagina you obtain a virtually ideal administration system. Not only is absorption through these membranes more complete than through your skin, but hormones absorbed through your vaginal membranes enter the very same pelvic plexus of veins that your ovaries normally empty into.

From here the hormones are carried to your heart and lungs and distributed to your tissues just as if your ovary had actually produced them.

I also reread Keyhole's post in the Perimenopause thread which could be of interest for this thread, too:

Interesting thread. I recently finished a book by Ray Peat called "From PMS to Menopause". It is available for free to download here.

What I found most interesting was that Peat, like others (including Hans Selye and Albert Szent-Gyiorgi), classified estrogen as a stress hormone... not a "female hormone". It puts forth that the idea of assigning gender to a hormone neglects the sheer complexity and global functioning of each individual substance, and inevitably hampers our ability to understand the way that it functions. From what I understand, Selye showed that estrogen mimicked the "shock" stage of the stress reaction, and that it rapidly deprived tissues of oxygen, therefore inducing local hypoxia.

The above book makes the statement that carcinogenic and estrogenic effects are synonymous with each other, as both effects are essentially similar (namely, depriving a cell of oxygen, amongst other things). The author's premise is that there is probably no such thing as "good" estrogen which can counter the "bad" estrogen. Rather, he points out that estrogen is a powerful stimuli for growth of tissue, a potent mitochondrial inhibitor, and if left unchecked (due to a lack of progesterone or other factors) ultimately leads to pathology - both local and systemic. His view (based on some pretty convincing evidence) is that estrogen is generally a "pro-stress" hormone, while progesterone is an "anti-stress" hormone. This is disregarding female or male assignments. Aside from the xeno-estrogenic substances we come across in the environment, he particularly focuses on polyunsaturated oil's uncanny ability to induce the formation of estrogens, mainly by prompting the conversion of other hormones via aromatases.

According to Ray Peat progesterone also protects the brain and helps with memory issues, but also with varicose veins. I only read a few snippets, but thought the book was very interesting.

Added: I will report back here if I notice any noteworthy changes.