For those interested, here is a relevant passage about chakras:
2023 Crop Circles
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skymargo
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I’ve found Smith interesting about number 18...There are 18 petals around the circumference of this CC, and another 18 rayed out from those, giving a total of 36. I don't know of any chakras that have that number in my quite basic understanding.
The closest would be Vishuddha, associated with the throat/neck/thyroid has 16 petals, each representing the Sanskrit vowels. Sahasrara is the crown chakra or thousand-petalled lotus, relating to pure consciousness.
There are various different systems of chakras, ranging from 3 to 12. I think the C's have said there are 7 energy centres or chakras, but also that chakras a quite misunderstood. Apparently Western esotericists started to link chakras with glands and plexuses in the nervous system in the early 20th Century.
Chakra - Wikipedia
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I don't know if this sentence refers to the Tarot and the Major Arcana.
Number 18 is the Moon card.
In short: Sometimes everything is not as it seems to us. There is a high risk of fraud and deception here. The time of confusion indicates that more attention should be paid to intuition.
Since there are two rounds of 18 each, that would be double warning = 36.
We can also calculate that it is 18 squared = 324.
But so that everything is not so "black", let's throw in a little numerology, well; 18, 36, 324, always comes out 9, and that
is the Hermit card.
Preparation for upcoming changes. Patience leads to peace and tranquility. The truth is within us. If we do well no. 18 we will come out wiser...
(according to the Hermit, search the internet for possible meanings of 18 and 9 and maybe find a personal explanation/understanding)
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More on chakras, from Ra:There are 18 petals around the circumference of this CC, and another 18 rayed out from those, giving a total of 36. I don't know of any chakras that have that number in my quite basic understanding.
The closest would be Vishuddha, associated with the throat/neck/thyroid has 16 petals, each representing the Sanskrit vowels. Sahasrara is the crown chakra or thousand-petalled lotus, relating to pure consciousness.
There are various different systems of chakras, ranging from 3 to 12. I think the C's have said there are 7 energy centres or chakras, but also that chakras a quite misunderstood. Apparently Western esotericists started to link chakras with glands and plexuses in the nervous system in the early 20th Century.
Chakra - Wikipedia
That would be equivalent to the heart center, or higher-emotional.
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This all reminded me of a book I read way back in the day, Energetic Healing by Arnie Lade. IIRC, it was the first time I encountered the idea that the Mayans had their own system of energy centres, which they called 'chaklas'. They also had a conception of the coiled serpent, which they called 'kultanlilni'. This totally blew my mind at the time - how could this be?! The Mayans had their own yoga? With very nearly the same words describing the same concepts? Across oceans?! No way, dude.
Linked below is one brief analysis of a Mayan stela from an author who has also read Gurdjieff. The stela is said to depict the energy centres. It looks to me like the figure has been emasculated, and is covering his heart with his hands. Rather than 'the purity of abstinence from orgasm' and 'the wisdom of the secret heart', to me this looks more like the image of an angel in distress, with a jungle inside. All in all, it's pretty fascinating.
Anyways, thinking about it now, the chakras/chaklas connection that surprised me in the past makes sense in the context of Witzel's work on the Laurasian mythological system. While Wiztel focuses on a specific story structure of the gods and reality, there's probably also a case to be made that the Kantekkian or Northern influence included not just cosmogonic myths, but also a system of understanding energy, the human uplink to the cosmos, and also a means of real transformation.
On the Northern connection note, I hadn't heard of any sort of Celtic chakras... until I asked Google! Nothing conclusive, but it looks like there was something about three cauldrons.
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Linked below is one brief analysis of a Mayan stela from an author who has also read Gurdjieff. The stela is said to depict the energy centres. It looks to me like the figure has been emasculated, and is covering his heart with his hands. Rather than 'the purity of abstinence from orgasm' and 'the wisdom of the secret heart', to me this looks more like the image of an angel in distress, with a jungle inside. All in all, it's pretty fascinating.
Anyways, thinking about it now, the chakras/chaklas connection that surprised me in the past makes sense in the context of Witzel's work on the Laurasian mythological system. While Wiztel focuses on a specific story structure of the gods and reality, there's probably also a case to be made that the Kantekkian or Northern influence included not just cosmogonic myths, but also a system of understanding energy, the human uplink to the cosmos, and also a means of real transformation.
On the Northern connection note, I hadn't heard of any sort of Celtic chakras... until I asked Google! Nothing conclusive, but it looks like there was something about three cauldrons.
celtic chakras – Seven intentions
Posts about celtic chakras written by msrawmojo
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Wandering Star
The Living Force
What a beautiful crop circle. Precious.
The inner circle is like a whirlwind puzzle with the pieces misaligned.
Or a view from above a whirlpool in which a section of the gyre is seen in each quadrant.
Beautiful.
Wandering Star
The Living Force
I have also thought along the lines of Puma's hypothesis of the "solar" crop circle, in a 2D representation of an energetic center of the body (chakra).
seve
Jedi Master
Dissociation of realities?
Olivierlejardinier
Jedi Council Member
First thought, Squaring the circle :
and maybe some evocation of planetary/cosmic bodies alignments...?
solarmind
Jedi
nice analisiy of the geometry of the Crop Circle, Roundway, Wiltshire, United Kingdom, June 11, 2023: at the link
Here is the copy of the txt from FB page:
Roundway hill, june 11, 2023
A formation that changes color as easy as a politician changes opinion. There are three distinctly different layers to this design, each with their own specific qualities. First the four protruding triangles and the circular appendices. Secondly the flattened ring, and then the central standing circle with the flattened avenues.
The circular appendices are 4:3 proportioned and placed between the inner- and outer radius of a square. We can use this to find a Squared circle and this determines the vertices of the four triangles. They are optimised in this drawing. The real formation was less symmetric here.
The base of the triangles are found by dividing the ring in twelve parts. The size of the ring is based on the crossing points of three squares.
For the central part, the diameter of the circle is divided in five equal parts. Each part is then divided in four equal parts (not shown) to find the width of the avenue and the change of radius of the adjacent quarters. The arms of the central part are placed off center so that one side aligns, giving a hint that rotational movement is implied. In any case, this part has rotational symmetry, not mirror symmetry.
So what are we looking at? As i was drawing the formation i realised that for me it appears to be an inverted mandala; The outer part represents the spiritual realm, while the center is grounded in our physical reality.
The outer part emphasises unmeasurable elements; The division by seven of the two appendix circles, the Squared circle and the impression of a square that is unstable.
The ring ties the unstable square to the three squares of the dodecagram. Twelve is associated with the passage of time. The instability of the square may also be related to seeing a square in perspective. A solidifying of dimensions if you will; Three squares in the dodecagram (time, three dimensional perspective) and a fourth square that cannot be measured.
The central part in this case is inverted; The flattened crop of the outer ring is changed for a background of standing crop. The semi circles may appear static at first sight, but the off center placement of the radial avenues suggest circular motion. Against the backdrop of a dodecagram, this can be associated with the passage of time, or perhaps the measure of time.
Time being what binds us in our physical reality.
Reconstructed from a photo by Stonehenge dronescapes.
Here is the copy of the txt from FB page:
Roundway hill, june 11, 2023
A formation that changes color as easy as a politician changes opinion. There are three distinctly different layers to this design, each with their own specific qualities. First the four protruding triangles and the circular appendices. Secondly the flattened ring, and then the central standing circle with the flattened avenues.
The circular appendices are 4:3 proportioned and placed between the inner- and outer radius of a square. We can use this to find a Squared circle and this determines the vertices of the four triangles. They are optimised in this drawing. The real formation was less symmetric here.
The base of the triangles are found by dividing the ring in twelve parts. The size of the ring is based on the crossing points of three squares.
For the central part, the diameter of the circle is divided in five equal parts. Each part is then divided in four equal parts (not shown) to find the width of the avenue and the change of radius of the adjacent quarters. The arms of the central part are placed off center so that one side aligns, giving a hint that rotational movement is implied. In any case, this part has rotational symmetry, not mirror symmetry.
So what are we looking at? As i was drawing the formation i realised that for me it appears to be an inverted mandala; The outer part represents the spiritual realm, while the center is grounded in our physical reality.
The outer part emphasises unmeasurable elements; The division by seven of the two appendix circles, the Squared circle and the impression of a square that is unstable.
The ring ties the unstable square to the three squares of the dodecagram. Twelve is associated with the passage of time. The instability of the square may also be related to seeing a square in perspective. A solidifying of dimensions if you will; Three squares in the dodecagram (time, three dimensional perspective) and a fourth square that cannot be measured.
The central part in this case is inverted; The flattened crop of the outer ring is changed for a background of standing crop. The semi circles may appear static at first sight, but the off center placement of the radial avenues suggest circular motion. Against the backdrop of a dodecagram, this can be associated with the passage of time, or perhaps the measure of time.
Time being what binds us in our physical reality.
Reconstructed from a photo by Stonehenge dronescapes.
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Olivierlejardinier
Jedi Council Member
Another report for this one, looks a bit wonky (circles aren't perfectly round) or is it the picture's angle...??
Saint-Babel, Nr Issoire in Puy-de-Dôme, France. Reported 21st June
Regarding the name, saint Babel originate from Babylas of Antioch:
"Babylas (Greek: Βαβύλας) (died 253) was a patriarch of Antioch (237–253), who died in prison during the Decian persecution.[1] In the Eastern Orthodox Church and Eastern Catholic Churches of the Byzantine rite his feast day is September 4, in the Roman Rite, January 24. He has the distinction of being the first saint recorded as having had his remains moved or "translated" for religious purposes; a practice that was to become extremely common in later centuries."