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By Jim Joy, December 2, 2006
When reading the chapters upon chapters of The Wave (Laura Knight-Judczyk) I can't help but focus on the many times the C's have said things like, there is no time, time doesn't exist, time is a 3rd density concept.
In this process of focusing on that idea, time doesn't exist, I have come to a 3rd density way of thinking of it, and wanted to share this idea with others. If by some chance the reader finds himself or herself on these pages and has not yet read "The Wave", I recommend that you do so before proceeding herein (www.cassiopaea.org ).
I offer the following thoughts.
It is a far-fetched idea that Time does not exist, to us 3rd density humans. However, since that idea has been posed, at least for me, it would be real handy to have a way of conceptualizing the possibility.
We measure time by noticing how events pass by. From Sunrise to Sunrise we notice the passing of 24 hours. When we fire a projectile with a certain amount of force we notice a resultant speed, measured by noticing how many feet the projectile travels and how much time that takes, as compared to the Sunrises. All time is measured in this way, by reference to natural things in our surroundings (Sunrise) that give us this sense of time to begin with. As "Time" has passed we have become more scientific about the measure of it. Now we build atomic clocks that use electromagnetic energy to synchronize to the natural resonances of such materials as rubidium or cesium. The resultant measure of time is still based on natural phenomena that we experience in our world; it is just more accurate and repeatable to measure time this way. However, our measure of time is still based on how we perceive the passing of events as compared to some natural resonance or cycle.
In someway our thinking of time has been bound to "us" as observers noticing how events pass us by, and all, or most, resultant thought on the subject is from that perspective. Maybe this is a manifestation of our STS perspective.
Suppose we turn that around.
Imagine for a moment that all that is "Physical" and "Real" is really somehow in the form of a static construct, within which we find ourselves. Then taking it one step further, there are an infinite number of static constructs of what is "Physical" and what is "Real", let's say oriented in an infinite number of perpendicular dimensions. Under these conditions it is not hard to imagine that all possible permutations of what is, or can be, "Physical" and "Real" actually all exists simultaneously. This is another idea that the C's mentioned at some point during Laura's work on her "Wave" material, that all exists simultaneously.
I have thought about how to envision this concept, and of course it is difficult, but as an analogy consider a massive library. The library itself is infinitely large and expands in all directions. Within this library are rows and rows, stacks and stacks, of books. However, there is only one story. Suppose each book contains an infinitely complete linear story of the passing of time, but from book to book there is some infinitesimally small difference between this book and the preceding one. The sum of all the infinitely numbered books represents all the infinitely different permutations of linear possibilities. These books also contain all the possibilities of physical characters, animals, people, fish, monsters as well as an infinite number of all possible objects such as rocks, water, cell phone, cars, ships and so on. Since the number of books is infinite there can be in one book a character, let's say John Smith, in this particular linear time scenario, designing a cell phone. Yet in another adjacent book that same character, John Smith, is a high priest in some religion. Then in yet another adjacent book John Smith is a King.
Before you read on make sure you firmly have this idea in mind.
Now suppose that consciousness is made to attend the library. This could be one consciousness or a million. So let's say "a group of conscious entities" are delivered into this library, and are allowed to read from the pages of these books. It is not necessary that they are all started in one book or another; let's say that each utilizes their free will to choose a starting point. The only rules they must follow are that in starting they must choose a character to be, and then stick with that character as long as they are in the library, and if while reading within a particular book an event occurs where they don't like the particular direction things are going and a choice is to be made between this or that action, they can then "Hyperlink" to another book that contains the particular action they choose. However, the "Hyperlinks" are carefully linked so that this new choice places them in the exact same moment of linear time, as they would have been in the previous book. The links of course are "Free will" action links. So the seeming animation of our lives is more like flipping quickly through frames of static images where the "hyperlink" choices create a seamless transition from a frame in one book to a frame in another.
The "turn around" that I mentioned earlier when I said, "Suppose we turn that around" is that now the passing of time is related to how fast we read. If we stop reading time stops. If we read real slow time slows down. However from the perspective of the engrossed reader, time is completely contiguous and all other entities and objects encountered are experienced at the pace we read them.
Of course as one reads within a particular book they will come across other characters. If those characters are occupied by some conscious entity, then the reader will notice them and have the ability to interact as detailed by that part of the story at hand. Those characters may choose to select common "Hyperlinks" or not. If they do, their lives run side by side. If they don't, their lives diverge, but may re-converge at any time they find themselves within a common book again. Another possibility that this mental construct allows is the possibility of characters we may encounter who are not actually filled with a soul or consciousness of any kind. They exist only as a part of the infinite possibilities but there is no consciousness that has chosen that character. They may be animate but in interacting with them one notices something missing. They are kind of dead. These characters may well do things, and we may even choose to follow and interact with them, but they are none the less empty characters just doing endless possible things because the infinite possible permutations allow it.
Since the number of books is infinite it is possible that one book contains a Susan Jones who has just dyed her hair Blue, and another book where Susan Jones didn't do that. There may be a book that contains a physicist, Paul Murray, who is doing an experiment on particles where he expects a particular result but doesn't get it. If he is certain that result must exist (by his intent) he will keep selecting different "hyperlinks" until he is satisfied that the result he expected has occurred.
So in some sense we choose our own reality by selecting particular "hyperlinks", and in another sense because of the "hyperlinks" we select, there is a certain "karma" aspect to what we may encounter because we have no control over what other entities select as their free will choices, as well as no control over the simply empty animate beings.
Given this concept to play with, we can expand our thoughts now to imagine how such things as weather, or volcanoes, or earthquakes are manifest in this library story. One possibility I can offer is that when the books were written they were actually the result of an infinitely complex mathematical equation. Containing an infinite number of terms, with an infinite number of variables, each term having an infinite possibility of exponents. This equation gives the word "polynomial" a new meaning. Such an equation would spawn an infinite number of solutions some of which would be seemingly random events. In some linear threads of "Hyperlinked" pathways there would be sudden rainstorms, or an erupting volcano. In other pathways there may be a perfect calm day. As we make our own choices along the way of reading, we enter into and out of those events. They seem unpredictable to us because they just seem to come and go, but as we transverse along the same path of linear time that they occupy we begin to create a science around our observations. Since all these events, even the seeming random ones, are the result of a mathematical equation, one might expect some degree of cyclic nature to them, along the lines of an infinite Fourier series.
If we accept the aforementioned possibility, that one might expect to observe various things with a cyclic nature, it is easy to imagine that some of these cyclic events will have a longer or shorter periods. The C's have mentioned a Grand Cycle of approximately 309,000 years. Humans have observed cycles within cycles such as the orbits of planets, and orbits of moons. We have noticed the processional cycle, and we have noticed the relationship of 12 as relating between what we observe as the processional cycle and what the C's suggest as the Grand Cycle. This should not be surprising because if this story is a mathematical construct, then as I have said we might expect to notice things in a cyclic related way, harmonics of the equation.
By thinking this way it is not a much greater stretch to imagine certain other cyclic things to manifest in a natural way, throughout the threads of the story line. Such as the manifestation of electromagnetic waves, or sound waves, which are cyclic in nature. Even light is an electromagnetic cycle occurring at various frequencies. Suppose there is some sort of limitation that prevents us from reading (flipping pages) too fast. Then we may observe that for some unknown reason the speed of light, for example, seems to have a finite limit, and so we make a science surrounding that observation. While studying that science we make our observations from the perspective that it is time that moves, and that we are merely observers. From that view point it would appear that no matter what we do, add more energy, light will not move faster than the limited amount we see. Because of this we imagine that traveling to distant places that are light-years away, would take lifetimes upon lifetimes to traverse.
This way of thinking gives rise to the idea that all of what we know as "History" is merely our singular and collective remembrances of the linear paths we have followed thus far. It is well possible that in some particular series of other linear paths Columbus did sail off into the sunset only to fall into an abyss. But that story altered at that point so we who are at an advanced time, having followed the other thread where he didn't, have no idea of that possibility. It could be that many of the events we do have in our particular linear path are in some cases dead ends and false ideas. We study our linear history and make attempts to piece it together in a way that we can understand, but who knows how many of those events are simply one of many permutations, which are useful to take note of, and which are "red herrings".
The C's have said, "All is learning". It doesn't seem to matter what linear path we take. What makes a difference is that we do take a path, we learn not to bring harm to others and that along that path we seek greater knowledge. It is only this greater knowledge that will allow us to realize that we are actually in a library and that all is indeed just learning.
Laura Knight- Judczyk researches with tremendous energy as to the details of our past and the potentials of our future. She is perhaps one of the most detail minded people I have become aware of, and her work has led some of us to think beyond our usual capacity, myself in particular. She is as practical of a person I know of and I trust her work without ever even having known her on a personal level. Her works speak volumes for her tenacity and integrity.
As for the down side of Laura's channeling, the Lizzies and such, I think that is only one or more possible permutations. It certainly may well be happening, but at each moment we each have the ability to alter the end result. So if you succumb to the idea of being food that is what you will be. That's ok too because it is a multiple of possible permutations. Someone has to do it. The story doesn't change unless we "will" it to, through our "hyperlink" choices. It is our "intent" and "will" that direct our own future. This I truly believe.
There is great value in knowing how to understand our past so that we may choose our present with greater and greater intelligence, and thus direct our future. If what I have fantasized herein is even close to the reality of our linear time experience, then it is not so much the past that matters as much as each choice in each current moment. It is each new "Hyperlink" we choose from this point forward that makes or breaks humanity, as we know it. Each moment is a new direction, a new permutation of all that is possible. Choose wisely.
As an engineer I have learned to predict future behaviors, of electronics circuitry, based on past data. From this past performance we project a line of possible events. We call it extrapolation. Looking at past events and presuming future events is a way of anticipating what may happen in the future. The C's give ideas of possible future events. Some of this may be based on just such an extrapolation, and some may be simply cyclic in nature. No matter what happens, we are merely reading permutations of what can be in a story of life and at some point we will walk out that library door and enjoy the fresh outdoor air, for a time, or an eternity.
Is there a God in all of this? I think there is. Who wrote the equation, the ultimate polynomial? Who placed us in the library to start with? Where are we even going if not to that which spawned us? This whole issue of "being" is awesome in itself; can that be the work of a random event? I doubt it. We are here for a reason and each of us must discover that reason and live up to its anticipation. God is the prime creator. All that is, the library and everything beyond it, is Gods construct. How else could one explain this wonder we call life?
By Jim Joy, December 2, 2006
When reading the chapters upon chapters of The Wave (Laura Knight-Judczyk) I can't help but focus on the many times the C's have said things like, there is no time, time doesn't exist, time is a 3rd density concept.
In this process of focusing on that idea, time doesn't exist, I have come to a 3rd density way of thinking of it, and wanted to share this idea with others. If by some chance the reader finds himself or herself on these pages and has not yet read "The Wave", I recommend that you do so before proceeding herein (www.cassiopaea.org ).
I offer the following thoughts.
It is a far-fetched idea that Time does not exist, to us 3rd density humans. However, since that idea has been posed, at least for me, it would be real handy to have a way of conceptualizing the possibility.
We measure time by noticing how events pass by. From Sunrise to Sunrise we notice the passing of 24 hours. When we fire a projectile with a certain amount of force we notice a resultant speed, measured by noticing how many feet the projectile travels and how much time that takes, as compared to the Sunrises. All time is measured in this way, by reference to natural things in our surroundings (Sunrise) that give us this sense of time to begin with. As "Time" has passed we have become more scientific about the measure of it. Now we build atomic clocks that use electromagnetic energy to synchronize to the natural resonances of such materials as rubidium or cesium. The resultant measure of time is still based on natural phenomena that we experience in our world; it is just more accurate and repeatable to measure time this way. However, our measure of time is still based on how we perceive the passing of events as compared to some natural resonance or cycle.
In someway our thinking of time has been bound to "us" as observers noticing how events pass us by, and all, or most, resultant thought on the subject is from that perspective. Maybe this is a manifestation of our STS perspective.
Suppose we turn that around.
Imagine for a moment that all that is "Physical" and "Real" is really somehow in the form of a static construct, within which we find ourselves. Then taking it one step further, there are an infinite number of static constructs of what is "Physical" and what is "Real", let's say oriented in an infinite number of perpendicular dimensions. Under these conditions it is not hard to imagine that all possible permutations of what is, or can be, "Physical" and "Real" actually all exists simultaneously. This is another idea that the C's mentioned at some point during Laura's work on her "Wave" material, that all exists simultaneously.
I have thought about how to envision this concept, and of course it is difficult, but as an analogy consider a massive library. The library itself is infinitely large and expands in all directions. Within this library are rows and rows, stacks and stacks, of books. However, there is only one story. Suppose each book contains an infinitely complete linear story of the passing of time, but from book to book there is some infinitesimally small difference between this book and the preceding one. The sum of all the infinitely numbered books represents all the infinitely different permutations of linear possibilities. These books also contain all the possibilities of physical characters, animals, people, fish, monsters as well as an infinite number of all possible objects such as rocks, water, cell phone, cars, ships and so on. Since the number of books is infinite there can be in one book a character, let's say John Smith, in this particular linear time scenario, designing a cell phone. Yet in another adjacent book that same character, John Smith, is a high priest in some religion. Then in yet another adjacent book John Smith is a King.
Before you read on make sure you firmly have this idea in mind.
Now suppose that consciousness is made to attend the library. This could be one consciousness or a million. So let's say "a group of conscious entities" are delivered into this library, and are allowed to read from the pages of these books. It is not necessary that they are all started in one book or another; let's say that each utilizes their free will to choose a starting point. The only rules they must follow are that in starting they must choose a character to be, and then stick with that character as long as they are in the library, and if while reading within a particular book an event occurs where they don't like the particular direction things are going and a choice is to be made between this or that action, they can then "Hyperlink" to another book that contains the particular action they choose. However, the "Hyperlinks" are carefully linked so that this new choice places them in the exact same moment of linear time, as they would have been in the previous book. The links of course are "Free will" action links. So the seeming animation of our lives is more like flipping quickly through frames of static images where the "hyperlink" choices create a seamless transition from a frame in one book to a frame in another.
The "turn around" that I mentioned earlier when I said, "Suppose we turn that around" is that now the passing of time is related to how fast we read. If we stop reading time stops. If we read real slow time slows down. However from the perspective of the engrossed reader, time is completely contiguous and all other entities and objects encountered are experienced at the pace we read them.
Of course as one reads within a particular book they will come across other characters. If those characters are occupied by some conscious entity, then the reader will notice them and have the ability to interact as detailed by that part of the story at hand. Those characters may choose to select common "Hyperlinks" or not. If they do, their lives run side by side. If they don't, their lives diverge, but may re-converge at any time they find themselves within a common book again. Another possibility that this mental construct allows is the possibility of characters we may encounter who are not actually filled with a soul or consciousness of any kind. They exist only as a part of the infinite possibilities but there is no consciousness that has chosen that character. They may be animate but in interacting with them one notices something missing. They are kind of dead. These characters may well do things, and we may even choose to follow and interact with them, but they are none the less empty characters just doing endless possible things because the infinite possible permutations allow it.
Since the number of books is infinite it is possible that one book contains a Susan Jones who has just dyed her hair Blue, and another book where Susan Jones didn't do that. There may be a book that contains a physicist, Paul Murray, who is doing an experiment on particles where he expects a particular result but doesn't get it. If he is certain that result must exist (by his intent) he will keep selecting different "hyperlinks" until he is satisfied that the result he expected has occurred.
So in some sense we choose our own reality by selecting particular "hyperlinks", and in another sense because of the "hyperlinks" we select, there is a certain "karma" aspect to what we may encounter because we have no control over what other entities select as their free will choices, as well as no control over the simply empty animate beings.
Given this concept to play with, we can expand our thoughts now to imagine how such things as weather, or volcanoes, or earthquakes are manifest in this library story. One possibility I can offer is that when the books were written they were actually the result of an infinitely complex mathematical equation. Containing an infinite number of terms, with an infinite number of variables, each term having an infinite possibility of exponents. This equation gives the word "polynomial" a new meaning. Such an equation would spawn an infinite number of solutions some of which would be seemingly random events. In some linear threads of "Hyperlinked" pathways there would be sudden rainstorms, or an erupting volcano. In other pathways there may be a perfect calm day. As we make our own choices along the way of reading, we enter into and out of those events. They seem unpredictable to us because they just seem to come and go, but as we transverse along the same path of linear time that they occupy we begin to create a science around our observations. Since all these events, even the seeming random ones, are the result of a mathematical equation, one might expect some degree of cyclic nature to them, along the lines of an infinite Fourier series.
If we accept the aforementioned possibility, that one might expect to observe various things with a cyclic nature, it is easy to imagine that some of these cyclic events will have a longer or shorter periods. The C's have mentioned a Grand Cycle of approximately 309,000 years. Humans have observed cycles within cycles such as the orbits of planets, and orbits of moons. We have noticed the processional cycle, and we have noticed the relationship of 12 as relating between what we observe as the processional cycle and what the C's suggest as the Grand Cycle. This should not be surprising because if this story is a mathematical construct, then as I have said we might expect to notice things in a cyclic related way, harmonics of the equation.
By thinking this way it is not a much greater stretch to imagine certain other cyclic things to manifest in a natural way, throughout the threads of the story line. Such as the manifestation of electromagnetic waves, or sound waves, which are cyclic in nature. Even light is an electromagnetic cycle occurring at various frequencies. Suppose there is some sort of limitation that prevents us from reading (flipping pages) too fast. Then we may observe that for some unknown reason the speed of light, for example, seems to have a finite limit, and so we make a science surrounding that observation. While studying that science we make our observations from the perspective that it is time that moves, and that we are merely observers. From that view point it would appear that no matter what we do, add more energy, light will not move faster than the limited amount we see. Because of this we imagine that traveling to distant places that are light-years away, would take lifetimes upon lifetimes to traverse.
This way of thinking gives rise to the idea that all of what we know as "History" is merely our singular and collective remembrances of the linear paths we have followed thus far. It is well possible that in some particular series of other linear paths Columbus did sail off into the sunset only to fall into an abyss. But that story altered at that point so we who are at an advanced time, having followed the other thread where he didn't, have no idea of that possibility. It could be that many of the events we do have in our particular linear path are in some cases dead ends and false ideas. We study our linear history and make attempts to piece it together in a way that we can understand, but who knows how many of those events are simply one of many permutations, which are useful to take note of, and which are "red herrings".
The C's have said, "All is learning". It doesn't seem to matter what linear path we take. What makes a difference is that we do take a path, we learn not to bring harm to others and that along that path we seek greater knowledge. It is only this greater knowledge that will allow us to realize that we are actually in a library and that all is indeed just learning.
Laura Knight- Judczyk researches with tremendous energy as to the details of our past and the potentials of our future. She is perhaps one of the most detail minded people I have become aware of, and her work has led some of us to think beyond our usual capacity, myself in particular. She is as practical of a person I know of and I trust her work without ever even having known her on a personal level. Her works speak volumes for her tenacity and integrity.
As for the down side of Laura's channeling, the Lizzies and such, I think that is only one or more possible permutations. It certainly may well be happening, but at each moment we each have the ability to alter the end result. So if you succumb to the idea of being food that is what you will be. That's ok too because it is a multiple of possible permutations. Someone has to do it. The story doesn't change unless we "will" it to, through our "hyperlink" choices. It is our "intent" and "will" that direct our own future. This I truly believe.
There is great value in knowing how to understand our past so that we may choose our present with greater and greater intelligence, and thus direct our future. If what I have fantasized herein is even close to the reality of our linear time experience, then it is not so much the past that matters as much as each choice in each current moment. It is each new "Hyperlink" we choose from this point forward that makes or breaks humanity, as we know it. Each moment is a new direction, a new permutation of all that is possible. Choose wisely.
As an engineer I have learned to predict future behaviors, of electronics circuitry, based on past data. From this past performance we project a line of possible events. We call it extrapolation. Looking at past events and presuming future events is a way of anticipating what may happen in the future. The C's give ideas of possible future events. Some of this may be based on just such an extrapolation, and some may be simply cyclic in nature. No matter what happens, we are merely reading permutations of what can be in a story of life and at some point we will walk out that library door and enjoy the fresh outdoor air, for a time, or an eternity.
Is there a God in all of this? I think there is. Who wrote the equation, the ultimate polynomial? Who placed us in the library to start with? Where are we even going if not to that which spawned us? This whole issue of "being" is awesome in itself; can that be the work of a random event? I doubt it. We are here for a reason and each of us must discover that reason and live up to its anticipation. God is the prime creator. All that is, the library and everything beyond it, is Gods construct. How else could one explain this wonder we call life?
