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Next Item: Apparently Bollyn claims to have received death threats because of his expose on VoteScam.
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Death Threats Enter Votescam Investigation 2nd Time
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Subject: [NA] Death Threats Enter Votescam Investigation for the 2nd Time
"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes
decide everything." attributed to Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin
November 14, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire
Death Threats Enter Votescam Investigation for the 2nd Time
For the second time death threats have entered the Votescam
investigation. The first time was in the early days when the
Colliers were working with a Miami Newspaper Maverick named
MacKenzie who was helping them expose votescam by Janet Reno and
other criminals of officialdom in Miami, Florida in the 1970's and
the 1980's. At one point the Collier's were told that if they
didn't get out of town, a known hit man would be hired to kill them
within a few weeks. The Colliers at that point fled to the
Washington D.C. area - and only returned to Miami under the
protection of friends who safe-housed them when in the area.
The second time a death threat has entered the votescam
investigation happened in the last few weeks while Christopher
Bollyn was writing his recent story about the new voting machines
which have two way modems and can be accessed and altered by
satellite technology.
Mr. Bollyn's story builds on the information
discovered by Phil O'Halloran of Relevance magazine, who in turn
learned of the votefraud issue thanks to the March 8, 1996 Tom
Valentine Radio Show in which Valentine interviewed this writer
about the votefraud committed against Buchanan and the people of
Dubuque, Iowa by Voter News Service and the Big TV Networks during
the 1996 Iowa Caucuses.
O'Halloran then studied our votefraud website, which was then in
the beginning phases under construction by webmaster extraordinaire
Linda Muller. O'Halloran was intrigued by the 1985 court testimony
of Mr. Robert Strunk, a computer expert who was allowed to examine
the vote counting process at the Hamilton County, Ohio Board of
Elections on election night under protection of the court order
issued to our group in 1985 by Judge Richard Niehaus.
O'Halloran was intrigued by Strunk's testimony that he had found an
active two way modem attached to the vote tabulating computer while
the votes were being tabulated on that election night, 1985, in
Cincinnati. O'Halloran did excellent follow up investigation on
that discovery and uncovered perhaps the biggest story to date in
the votescam investigation. Christopher Bollyn has now brought
O'Halloran's research up to date. Such is the power of the
internet.
The entire original article in question, written by Mr. Christopher
Bollyn, appears in our October 27, 2000 Network America e-wire. The
original article is must reading.
The death threat to Christopher Bollyn came from Mr. Alex
Kantoravich, a Russian born business man who supplies the USA's
largest computerized vote counting supplier, Election System &
Software, Inc,. with the "control boxes" which tell many American
election computers what to do.
Bollyn had tracked down Mr. Kantoravich in the process of his
investigation into two-way computer modems in free standing voting
machines. Mr. Kantoravich revealed that he provided the "control
boxes" to the humongous election system vendor, ES & S, Inc., that
he had come to the USA from Russia 11 years ago, and that the
"control boxes" he supplied for the voting machines were not
manufactured in the USA. He declined to say what line of work he
was in before he came to the USA or where the mysterious "control
boxes" were made.
On the Sunday morning after he interviewed Mr. Kantoravich, circa
November 1, 2000 - Christopher Bollyn's telephone rang. It was Mr.
Kantoravich with his thick Russian accent. "I don't want anything
to happen to my company, to you, or to me," Mr. Kantoravich told
Bollyn, a journalist for the Spotlight Weekly Newspaper based in
Washington, D.C. He would repeat the veiled death threat later a
second time before the conversation ended.
Mr. Bollyn immediately called 911 and reported the death threat to
the local Police. Bollyn asked the Police to contact Mr.
Kantoravich and tell him that "you don't talk to journalists that
way in the United States."
While your writer was a guest on the Bill Boshears radio show on
WLW Radio on Sunday night, November 12, 2000, between 9 PM till
midnight, I informed Mr. Boshears of the situation.
Bill Boshears
graciously and courageously called Christopher Bollyn and
interviewed him during the program for more than five minutes -
blasting this story over 38 states and half of Canada from the
50,000 watt clear channel voice of "The Big One" as WLW Radio calls
itself.
With regard to death threats and the votescam investigation, the
following information is appropriate for this e-wire. At the
Citizens for a Fair Vote Count Convention in late August, 2000,
speaker Ron Keller told the story of Joe Cooper. Joe Cooper was
working with famed Louisiana attorney Jim Garrison on investigating
the Kennedy assassination. Cooper also ran for Sheriff and lost in
Louisiana. In the process he uncovered how the Shoup machines were
being rigged. He then did public demonstrations on how this was
done before Television crews in various cities. The 21 year old Ron
Keller helped Joe Cooper do such a demonstration before the camera
crews of all three Houston television stations in 1964. To the
amazement of all present, and to the consternation of Shoup himself
(who fled the premises chased by reporters at the end of the
demonstration) Cooper and Keller proved how the machines could be
fixed and were being fixed. Shoup was convicted of a felony
regarding votefraud during this period. Joe Cooper was shot in the
back and killed eight months later at the age of 38, leaving a
young wife and several small children behind. Ron Keller, the
earliest investigator of votescam in the modern era, appears on
video tape 2 of the CFVC convention, available at votefraud.org in
the first section on the Welcome Page.
Back to the Christopher Bollyn story:
Here is a quick summary of the potentially nation-saving
revelations in Mr. Bollyn's article:
*** Just as we are now seeing TV ads for the "wireless internet" -
and just as cell phones allow people to speak from New York to
California and almost everywhere in between via Satellite
communication technology - voting machines are now in use (such as
in Chicago) which are equipped with two way modems and which can be
accessed, questioned, and controlled by satellites. These new
voting machines are made by ES & S (Election Systems & Software,
Inc.) based in Oklahoma City. Thus the votes tabulated in each
precinct can be altered by those controlling the codes and the
satellites - without the knowledge or awareness of the good people
manning the polls and helping their neighbors vote on election day.
*** Indifference by election officials to the fact that computers
can be altered and rigged easily --- leaves the sane person
speechless. (That's your writer's characterization of what Bollyn's
article reveals.)
*** Switzerland has perhaps the best regulated hand counted voting
system in the world. The Swiss have rejected membership in the
United Nations twice at the polls --- precisely because they have
citizen run, hand counted, paper ballot elections which are
transparent, verifiable and therefore honest.
*** Public Elections have become private business in that our
election computers are now programmed by private companies which
have so far successfully prevented election officials, candidates,
-- everyone - from examining their private software which instructs
the election night computers what to do.
*** It is easiest for the manufacturer who owns the codes and the
software to fix an election, but these systems with 2 way modems
are potentially prey to hacking by anyone who owns a computer with
a modem. During the same week that Bollyn was being told by an ES &
S official that their election software was safe from hacking, it
was revealed that teenagers had successfully hacked into software
giant Microsoft's systems - and had been there for a week without
detection!
***
The article ends with Bollyn's astounding revelation that
America's largest company's software is being programmed by a
Russian born businessman, Alex Kantarovich of Vikant Corporation,
who came to the US from Russia 11 years ago, who refuses to say
what line of work he was in before he came here, and who refused to
say where his "control boxes" -- which power the new election
computers' brain - are made, but he did confirm that they were not
made in the USA.
This last bit of reporting tends to confirm the
conclusion arrived at by the late Votescam authors James & Kenneth
Collier, Dr. Phillip O'Halloran of Relevance Magazine, and this
writer --- that the five or so major computer software companies
which provide America's election system are actually fronts for the
New World Order's intelligence agencies.
(This writer will speak only for himself when adding in a more
specific vein that this means that
these election software
companies are fronting for the FBI, the CIA, the KGB in its current
form, and Israel's Mossad.
Furthermore, I believe the evidence
points to the reality that
parts of these intelligence agencies are
merging at the upper levels. This would explain why the FBI's Louie
Freeh established FBI offices in Moscow, Russia a few year ago.
Thus, at this moment, it is my conclusion that an alliance between
those issuing the money at the Federal Reserve Board and related
Central Banks, the modern day "court minstrels" in Hollywood and at
the 5 Big TV Networks, the puppets of the modern day Money Changers
who are called politicians and who bask in the rays of Big TV Media
favorable publicity, and the intelligence agencies spying on the US
population and running these election computer software companies -
constitute the Shadow World Government of the New World Order.
Again, you can see Christopher Bollyn's original article in our
October 27, 2000 Network America e-wire.
Jim Condit Jr., Director, Citizens for a Fair Vote Count
The "Ruling Elite", through their five Big TV Networks, AP wire
service, and two major papers, the New York Times and Washington
Post, are making peaceful change impossible at the ballot box, --
via Vote Fraud, Media Censorship, and Poll Fraud, and the flood of
illegal aliens who are becoming registered voters . . . President
Kennedy talked about this:
"If you make peaceful change impossible..... you make violent
revolution inevitable." President John F Kennedy
Go to
www.votefraud.org
to hear (or read the text) of the Radio Ads
which are now airing over WLW Radio (which reaches into 38 states
at night)and other stations -- exposing the easily rigged
computerized elections which are about to "elect" the next
President, and also exposing the coordinated news and censorship of
the 5 Big TV Networks. Thanks to Ken Lowndes for Congress, the
radio stations MUST air these ads. They're tough. They're
"outrageous" -- and you've never heard anyting like it on TV or
Radio.
The three prongs of Big Media election manipulation are: Massive
coverage of favored Candidates, and Censorship of all other
candidates -- including warped Public Opinion Polls for months
before the election; phony exit polls done by joint effort of the
Big TV Networks on Election Day, and easily rigged computerized
vote counting on election day -- which make the polls and exit
polls come true. (On election day, the people are barred from
touching or counting their ballots, the election officials are
barred from knowing what is in the software program that instructs
the computers how to count the votes.)
www.networkamerica.org
(you can subscribe to this list by going to
this website and signing in at the top near the topica logo, then
answer confirming message)
www.votefraud.org
for a report about the recent Citizens for a Fair
Vote Count Convention which took place Aug 25-27, 2000 and Action
Steps. The Citizens for a Fair Vote Count Convention was a great
success in launching the beginning of a nationwide network to
restore honest elections. See special report at updated and
improved website. Go to:
www.votefraud.org
go to votefraud.org to read archived messages from this Network
America e-wire in the "news" section under "news by month"
Read "Best of" Archives at
www.lewisnews.com
at "Citizens for a
Fair Vote Count" section accessed in left hand column of home page.
Or see the end of the message to read all archives at topica.com
(RADIO SHOW ON LINE ALL THE TIME. Listen anytime to the 'Votefraud
vs Honest Elections' crash course radio show over the internet at
www.sightings.com
in the archives, April 3rd, 2000 show, Jeff Rense
host, Jim Condit Jr. guest)
To contact us, reply to this message or send e-mail to:
jcondi...@networkamerica.org
I wonder if anybody ever investigated to discover if Bollyn's alleged "death threat" ever actually occurred? Of course, hard to investigate a death threat purported to have come over the phone. But did he ever report it to the authorities? Did anyone ever check?
Very strange.
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I found a police report taken from
here
. See image below.
The police officer making the report checks out. Click
here
for a look at the Hoffman Estate PD. The Rolling Meadows Court wasn't much help.
Is it normal that the police report doesn't have a letter head of the Police department? Perhaps it only appears on page one but I am not sure. But all in all, IMO it stinks.
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Here's Bollyn RIGHT after 911. Keep in mind what his bio says:
Quote from: Bollyn's bio
In 2000,
while working with IBM Global Network Services,
Bollyn discovered a book on the Kennedy assassination entitled Final Judgment by Michael Collins Piper. After donating a copy of the book to
the Schaumburg library, Bollyn discovered a censorship process at work at the library. This led to a
First Amendment controversy and an event at the library in which Mr. Piper presented his case to an
audience of 200.
In June of 2000, Bollyn began working with The Spotlight, a populist newspaper and predecessor of
American Free Press, in Washington, D.C.
Did he QUIT working for IBM? Was The Spotlight paying him enough to quite IBM?
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His first assignment was to photograph the Bilderberg conference attendees as they met at Chateau du Lac, Genval (near Brussels), Belgium.
Didn't see that. Only saw an article about the Danish Krone from August of 2000. Maybe more searching needed?
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While returning to Washington from a weekend in Vermont, the Bollyn family passed through New York
City in the early morning hours of September 11, 2001. Unable to return to Washington, the Bollyn
family traveled on small roads to their home in Chicago.
Bollyn immediately began writing and investigating the crimes of 9/11 and has continued his
research to this day. Many key discoveries about the attacks have been uncovered through Bollyn's
research over the years.
So, Bollyn immediately began investigating 911... and one week after the events in NY, he is all over the newsgroups with posts such as the following:
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Date: Tues, Sep 18 2001 10:53 pm
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Urban Moving Systems is an Israeli-owned company.
The three men who were in Liberty Park, like the five who were nabbed
by the FBI on the roof of another Israeli-owned moving company, were
all Israeli nationals. Some of them had European passports, as was
reported in Ha'aretz (Israeli paper) on September 18 by Yossi Melman.
The FBI suspected that they are with the Israeli secret service,
Mossad.
Dastardly deeds like this attack are seldom as simple as they seem.
Did these Israelis have prior knowledge of the attack?
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Date: Tues, Sep 18 2001 10:40 pm
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These were Israelis who were celebrating the WTC attack.
Urban Moving Systems is an Israeli owned company - this is why the
nationalities of the three men was not released. It doesn't fit the
party line.
According to Ha'aretz, Sept. 18, there were 5 other Israelis who were
nabbed by the FBI for videotaping and celebrating with "cries of joy
and mockery." These men were caught on the roof of another
Israeli-owned moving company in New Jersey.
Moishe's Moving Company in Jersey City has "hundreds" of young
Israelis between the ages of 22-35 working illegally in their
"fortress" compound near the entrance to the Holland Tunnel.
Reports from Jersey City indicate that Moishe's has removed all their
trucks from the site and painted over their signs. I think it's time
to find out exactly what kind of business these Israeli movers are up
to!
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"The feds declined to release the men's identities or nationalities."
Yes, the feds declined to mention that the men who were cheering and
celebrating the attack on the WTC were Israelis.
Ha'aretz, of Israel, has the story on line for Sept. 18, under news:
5 Israelis detained for 'puzzling behavior' after WTC tragedy
By Yossi Melman
Five Israelis who had worked for a moving company based in New Jersey
are being held in U.S. prisons for what the Federal Bureau of
Investigation has described as "puzzling behavior" following the
terror attack on the World Trade Center in New York last Tuesday. The
five are expected to be deported sometime soon.
The families of the five, who asked that their names not be released,
said that their sons had been questioned by the FBI for hours on end,
had been kept in solitary confinement for three days, and had been
humiliated, stripped of their clothes and blindfolded.
The mother of one of the young men explained the chain of events as
she understands it to Ha'aretz:
She said that the five had worked for the company, which is owned by
an Israeli, for between two months and two years. They had been
arrested some four hours after the attack on the Twin Towers while
filming the smoking skyline from the roof of their company's building,
she said. It appears that they were spotted by one of the neighbors
who called the police and the FBI.
The mother said that the families and friends of the five in Israel
had known nothing of the men's whereabouts for a number of days.
"When they finally let my son make a phone call for the first time to
a friend in the United States two days ago, he told him that he had
been tortured by the FBI in a basement," the mother said. "He was
stripped to his underwear; he was blindfolded and questioned for 14
hours. They thought that because he has citizenship of a European
country as well as of Israel that he was working for the Mossad
[Israel's secret service]."
Seven FBI agents later stormed the apartment of one of the Israelis,
searched it and questioned his roommate. The Israeli owner of the
company, who has U.S. citizenship, was also questioned. Both men were
subsequently released.
The families here complained that the Israeli consulate in New York
and the situation room set up by the Foreign Ministry there to locate
missing Israelis had done nothing to help their sons. The Foreign
Ministry told the families that the FBI had denied holding the five
and that the consulate had chosen to believe the FBI, the mother said.
The five were transferred out of the FBI's facility on Saturday
morning and are now being held in two prisons in New Jersey by the
Immigration and Naturalization Services. They are charged with
illegally residing in the United States and working there without
permits.
The Foreign Ministry said in response that it had been informed by the
consulate in New York that the FBI had arrested the five for "puzzling
behavior." They are said to have had been caught videotaping the
disaster and shouting in what was interpreted as cries of joy and
mockery.
� Copyright 2001 Ha'aretz. All rights reserved
Not content with posting little "teasers" all over the alt.newsgroups, within a month, Bollyn is also writing articles and other people are posting them:
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Evidence Hard to Come by in WTC Case
Much of the case against the Muslim terrorists in the Trade Center attacks
is based on copies of a letter considered by experts to be a fraud.
By Christopher Bollyn
It has been exactly one month since four passenger planes were involved in
an
atrocious act of terrorism on American soil and yet no hard evidence has
been
presented associating the prime suspect, Osama bin Laden, with the events of
Sept. 11.
A case has been built, largely in the media, blaming Muslim terrorists for
hijacking the passenger planes and flying them into the World Trade Center
and the Pentagon. The much-awaited scientific evidence from the planes' flight data
recorders, the "black boxes," has yet to be presented.
An FBI spokesman told American Free Press on Oct. 11 that only two black boxes
had been retrieved from the Pentagon and the Pennsylvania crash sites but the
information they contain has not been released, although AFP was told that it
would be-"eventually."
In the eye of the public, much of the government's case against the 19 Muslim
Arabs named as suspects rests on copies of a suspicious and possibly spurious
five-page letter, hand-written in Arabic, which has turned up in three
different locations. However, the document itself raises more questions than it
answers, leading one expert to say that it could be "the greatest falsification
in history."
A law enforcement official described the letter to the press as "a spiritual
instruction manual" giving the terrorists step-by-step instructions for their
suicide mission and preparing them spiritually for death. The document
contained a mission checklist and instructions for mental and spiritual
preparation, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity, according
to USA Today on Oct. 2.
One copy was found in Mohammed Atta's suitcase, which "mysteriously" was left
behind at the airport in Portland, Maine. Another copy was found in the
wreckage in Pennsylvania and a third was found in the car of one of the
suspects.
Muslim scholars and specialists question the authenticity of the letter saying
the phraseology and style are "un-Islamic." "This is not the way Muslims speak
or think, there is a mysterious element here, and the FBI knows it for sure,"
Mohammed Hurub, a Muslim scholar from Bethlehem said.
There are serious questions and problems with a number of foreign and peculiar
phrases and ideas contained in the text of the letter.
If the letter, which is described as "part theological, part mission statement"
is genuine, "then the men who murdered more than 7,000 innocent people believed
in a very exclusive version of Islam-or were surprisingly unfamiliar with their
religion," Middle East expert and journalist Robert Fisk says.
The problems first arise in the opening lines of the letter, "In the name of
God, the most merciful, the most compassionate . . . in the name of God, of
myself, and of my family." No Muslim would include his family in such a prayer,
Fisk says, but would mention the Prophet Mohammed immediately after he
mentioned God.
Furthermore, the letter lacks any mention whatsoever of the specific political
reasons for the planned actions that could tie the suspects to the agenda
advocated by Osama bin Laden. Why is there no mention of the political reasons
that would compel these men to take such drastic action?
Although the original letter has not been found, the copied text reads "remind
yourself that in this night you will face many challenges. But you have to face
them and understand it 100 percent . . ."
American scholars raise doubts about the use of "100 percent" noting that it is
"hardly a theological term to be found in a religious exhortation,"
according to Fisk.
The letter urges the reader to recite the morning prayer and then goes on to
quote from it. A devout Muslim would hardly need to be told of his duty to
say his prayers and would certainly not need to be reminded of the text of those
prayers. It is as if a Christian would have to be reminded of The Lord's
Prayer.
In some respects similar to the suspicious "diaries" of Lee Harvey Oswald
and Sirhan Sirhan, there are many other problems with this letter which is now
being used as "evidence" to tie the suspects together in a
religiously-motivated conspiracy.
What strikes me about all this is that Bollyn "established his credentials" with Michael Collins Piper over the JFK book and library incident.
Then he "came on the alt news scene" going after Bilderbergers, etc.
Then, he so very synchronously, according to newsgroups records, just prior to the time that Bush was "selected", was going on about vote fraud...
Isn't that amazing?
So, there he is, involved with an alt news organ (The Spotlight which became American Free Press) when 911 happens, and he is perfectly placed to become "the authority."
He even has death threats under his belt! Over vote fraud, no less!
Okay, we see that Bollyn has been anti-Bush, anti-Israel, anti-Zionist, pro-Israel involved in 911, virtually from the beginning.
So, what's the angle here?
Could he be just an innocent good guy who just happened to put the pieces together so fast?
Coming back to the most recent event, Bollyn being roughed up by the law for being an investigative journalist...
If it happened for the reasons he says there is a problem:
It makes the PTB look totally stupid... they know better than to do stuff like that because it only validates the person they are attacking. And why would they want to validate a guy exposing Israel as a participant in 911?
That doesn't compute.
If it was totally staged... and he participated in the staging, there are similar problems. Why would they help him stage something like that?
But, what if he is working to expose himself as a looney toon? What if he "goes down in flames"? Does all his work exposing the Israeli connection to 911 also go down in flames because it was all dreamed up by a lunatic?
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He who learns must suffer
And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget
Falls drop by drop upon the heart,
And in our own despair, against our will,
Comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.
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I don't know how police departments do their "media releases." But hopefully someone will check it out and validate it.
It just confirms everything I wrote above.
Notice that the arresting officers say that Bollyn reported that the persons in the mysterious vehicle were FBI and then acted the way he did when they identified themselves as undercover policemen. Bollyn, of course, just says that the officers were "confrontational."
I can just imagine it. Bollyn tells them "You are NOT local cops, you ARE the FBI! I KNOW it! What's more, you are spying on me because I am a great and special investigative reporter working on exposing 911!" And it would go downhill from there.
And then, as Bollyn himself confirmed, he lit out for the house... which the cops confirm was perceived as possibly going for a weapon.
So, that's pretty much nailed down.
Question is why is he creating this drama?
Sounds to me like he is either really over the edge or he is deliberately acting that way so as to make everything he has done and written up to this point suspect. After all, it will be suggested that if he is crazy, you can't rely on anything he has ever said... it's the product of a fevered and distempered mind.
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He who learns must suffer
And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget
Falls drop by drop upon the heart,
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Comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.
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Okay, there's another thing that is bugging me. I went to the site Lucy found for the photo of Bollyn's wife. Here it is:
Now, this is a gal who was married to a well-known rock musician who died in a ferry accident.. So what kind of circles was Bollyn moving in to meet her? What kind of circles did SHE move in?
Okay, he was probably still working for IBM when he met her and they married. The death of her first husband was in 1994, the movie was made in 2003... She and Bollyn have an 8 year old daughter and possibly an older son even if Bollyn refers to the son as a "small child," he gives something away when he says he wanted his son and his brother. Of course, he could have an older son AND two small chidren with Helje.
It certainly doesn't look like Bollyn met her when he started writing about the ferry disaster because the child is too old for that. Maybe the ferry disaster is used to create a story that isn't true?
All just speculations, but I still find it difficult to imagine a probable high-maintenance looker like Helje married to an alternative news writer/911 investigator like Bollyn who evidences some serious psychological issues here.
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Christopher Bollyn Police Incident
I spoke at length with Lt. Russo of the Hoffman Estates Police Dept. this morning.
He is tentatively going to be on our show today to talk about this matter.
If for some reason, his supervising officer says he can't come on the show, I am allowed to use his comments to me on the phone this morning, but he doesn't think there will be any problem.
1) There was no FBI present. The law enforcement officers in the unmarked car were part of a gang suppression unit that makes routine surveillance of the neighborhood. When they drove by, Bollyn was on his lawn with his kid and Bollyn told the kid to "wave to the FBI". The Hoffman Estates cops heard him say that, but since the kid waved to them, they waved back. They drove by. Next thing, the police get Bollyn's call of a suspicious vehicle and so these same cops decided to respond to it because they knew that it was him who made the call, since they had just driven by Bollyn's home.
2) The police, according to Lt. Russo, were not in the neighborhood looking for Bollyn, surveilling Bollyn, or there because of Bollyn. They were doing a routine circuit of the neighborhood, which they do regularly. There is nothing to support Bollyn's claims that they were initially in the neighborhood BECAUSE of him, but they did stop at his home to respond to his call. The police are allowed to be in a neighborhood that is on their beat and don't need the permission of residents to patrol the streets.
3) When the officers arrived at the Bollyn home to respond to his "suspicious car" call, Bollyn became confrontational and belligerent with police, yelling at them, making gestures with his fist (clenching his fists) as if he was going to strike one of the officers. He was screaming things to them like, "You're following me, you're watching me!!" Lt. Russo says the police were not following or watching him, they responded to his call. The unmarked car of officers was making its regular, routine surveillance of the neighborhood and responded to his call since they were the unit that was closest at the time. Remember, they had just driven by Bollyn's home, so they knew it was him that had made the call.
After the cops arrived about the call and Bollyn became confrontational, Bollyn tried to run into his house and they restrained him, not knowing whether he was going for a gun or some kind of weapon, since he was acting so irrationally. the police didn't know what to expect from him. They made a judgment call to restrain him.
4) He was tazered by the police as he tried to enter his home, which is standard procedure, according to Russo, when someone is being combative/belligerent like that.
5) The firefighters were on the scene because the police called them (also standard operating procedure), to give any necessary medical assistance to Bollyn in case of any potential injury sustained by the tazer. Bollyn was NOT injured - neither by the tazer or by the police themselves - and this statement is supported by both Bollyn and the police department. Lt. Russo says it is not their policy to beat people up/rough people up when they respond to a call. We're not talking about the LAPD here.
6) Every cell in the jail has both a toilet and a sink that is also a water fountain. So when Bollyn says he was put into a cell without any water and told to drink from the toilet, the question is, why doesn't he mention the water fountain inside the cell, from which he had every opportunity to drink? Russo says nobody told him to drink from the toilet.
7) Russo said, "Our actions were based upon HIS actions." We used only the force necessary to restrain him and get the situation under control. It seems to me that it wouldn't have been a "situation" at all if Bollyn didn't MAKE it into a situation. Bollyn was yelling and screaming at the police, making a spectacle of himself, acting in a confrontational manner, making gestures with his fists and using body language that indicated he might become violent/physically aggressive toward the police. (clenched fists, etc..) The police made a judgment call based upon Bollyn's behavior.
8) Russo wanted to know what Bollyn was talking about when he relates this incident of August 15th to 9-11. I explained that Bollyn has been investigating the events of September 11th and written several articles based upon his investigation. But since the police had no idea who Bollyn was at the time of the incident, then how could the police incident possibly have anything to do with his 9-11 investigation or any of the articles he's previously written on this subject? Answer: it couldn't. the police have emphasized that they did not even know who Bollyn was at the time. They had no knowledge of his 9-11 articles or investigation or his journalistic focus. The question then, why is Bollyn trying to tie the police incident of August 15th to the issue of 9-11? His claims regarding this police incident having anything to do with his 9-11 inquiries/investigation are not supported by facts.. Is this a publicity stunt?
9) I asked Russo if any police car video footage was recorded at the time of the incident and he says he's got to check on that, he's not sure. There is a court date set, so he cannot tell me all the specifics of this incident, but I'm hoping that we can speak with him today on our show. I've scheduled a tentative interview with him for 1:30 pm eastern time, so that he can respond to Bollyn's claims publicly and we can present the other side of the story.
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It makes the PTB look totally stupid... they know better than to do stuff like that because it only validates the person they are attacking. And why would they want to validate a guy exposing Israel as a participant in 911?
That doesn't compute.
If it was totally staged... and he participated in the staging, there are similar problems. Why would they help him stage something like that?
Mhhh... I don't know, it's certainly strange.
Maybe he's working (consciously or not) for a faction within the US that wants Israel exposed? You know, just as we suspect there's a faction working for Israel that blames 9/11 on the US and talks about NO plane on Pentagon, but never mentions Israel, as a sort of blackmailing the US government. What's Bollyn's opinion on the Pentagon strike? If he's working for this hypothetical US-anti-Israel faction, he will not touch the Pentagon strike, because that absolutely incriminates Bush and co. as well. But it wouldn't matter if he talks about anything else that is anti-Bush, cause nothing is strong enough. His anti-Bush talk would be just to validate himself.
The thing about the kibbutz is weird, though. But he is not Jewish, is he? Doesn't seem like a Jewish name to me. What if he was in Israel as an infiltrator?
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But, what if he is working to expose himself as a looney toon? What if he "goes down in flames"? Does all his work exposing the Israeli connection to 911 also go down in flames because it was all dreamed up by a lunatic?
If he goes down in flames, I don't think that would be enough to bring down the Israel connection with him. It's way too late now. There's too much information out there. They should've done that before. Besides, at this point it seems to me that his story is more credible than not to the average reader. I kind of bought it at first, before reading your comments.
Another hypothesis: Bollyn sincerely believes what he researches, but he's also an egomaniac in need of recognition, even if that means martyrdom. So maybe FBI agents were riding around his house to send him a mild, subtle threat, and he took the opportunity to escalate the event. He ran to his house, knowing that this would result in him being tackled and taken away, and knowing that he would later be able to write about this.
Or maybe the FBI agents are really stupid. They are 'footmen' after all, not necessarily aware of the bigger picture. So they 'blew it'.
Spy vs spy is difficult to follow. It's like an equation where you change a plus for a minus and the result is entirely different.
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Very interesting...
Doesn't say anything about how he makes his living... American Free Press paying him that much?
What about the time on the kibbutz? That's a bit odd...
So, he knows several languages; he must have some linguistic talents.
He was an IBM employee in 2000 - that's another interesting thing.
The period in the Israeli kibbutz kinda makes me wonder why his good buddy Eric Hufschmid isn't investigating HIM!
This just smells odd. It seems like more of a legend than a real bio.
That's just my initial reaction, of course. I hope somebody can find out more details (verifiable, that is.)
For young people in Europe to go and spend a summer on a Kibbutz is not that strange. During the 80s and 90s it was widely promoted as a place for foot loose and fancy free students to go and spend their summers. I know a few people who did it. That is not to say however that some nefarious and subtle programming went on when they were there.
The comment was that he has learned to converse in several languages (supposedly the ones he visited in his youth). Again not that strange on the face of it.
IBM eployed 10s of 000s of people, again not that strange, at least on the face of it. Of course, we are not looking at the 'face of it' :-)
As for Bollyns report of the event; it sounds like he is leaving out a lot of details. He says:
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I asked these men who they were and why they were harassing my street. Why are you driving around with this unmarked car around my house, I asked? Who are you, anyway? They were not at all willing to identify themselves and were very confrontational, to say the least.
So does this mean that the first thing he said to these officers was that they were harassing his street? That's something of a provocation in this day and age. He doesn't actually state what the men said to him, only his side of the dialogue. The fact is, it takes very little to get tasered these days, and it sounds like Bollyn did more than enough. Not that it's justified, but when you provoke police who are trained in fascist-style policing, you don't go aggravating them and then complain that you are being victimised when they respond as expected.
Bollyn got tasered for "standing up to the police. Very good. Add his name to the growing list.
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According to Lt. Russo, no FBI agents were riding around his house.
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More than that, there IS a reason for the police officers to be cruising the neighborhood. Apparently the hHoffman Estates are not such a quiet crime-free, non-happenin' zone, as Bollyn states. Check the date on this incident:
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Aug 16, 2006 8:25 am US/Central
Man On Run From Police In Northwest Suburbs Suspect Was Arrested After Allegedly Using Fake
Prescription
Get breaking news alerts (CBS)
HOFFMAN ESTATES, Ill.
A man who escaped from police custody in Hoffman Estates was still on the run Wednesday morning.
Hoffman Estates police say the 46-year-old Barrington man was arrested at a pharmacy last night
after allegedly trying to use a fake prescription to buy drugs.
After taking the man into custody, police took him to an area hospital after he complained about
being ill.
Officers say he was seen running out of a hospital parking lot at about 10 a.m. Tuesday.
At least 15 police officers from Hoffman Estates and neighboring suburbs spent four hours looking
for the man, who was not apprehended.
Hoffman Estates police say he is not a danger to others and that officers were looking for him for
his own protection because he is ill.
Authorities did not release the man's name.
(� 2006 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published,
broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report.)
Notice how these horrible cops (and there ARE horrible cops, no doubt about it- it just isn't these guys) were so awful that when the man complained of being ill, instead of putting him in jail, they took him to the hospital.
Sorry, with all the data, Bollyn's version of the incident just doesn't fly.
Again, either Bollyn is over the edge or he's trying to deliberately ACT like he's over the edge.
And boy, is he going to make 911 Researchers look looney if he manages to give this thing any legs.
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For young people in Europe to go and spend a summer on a Kibbutz is not that strange.
Bollyn is not European. He's American. It IS kinda strange for an American unless he is a Jew.
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The comment was that he has learned to converse in several languages (supposedly the ones he visited in his youth). Again not that strange on the face of it.
No, not on the face of it, it's just not TOO common for Americans.
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As for Bollyns report of the event; it sounds like he is leaving out a lot of details
Sure looks that way.
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I just recorded an interview with Lt. Russo of Hoffman Estates Police Dept.
He told me this is the only interview he has given.
He has received 200 plus voice mail messages regarding this matter and says they are shocked at how Bollyn is trying to escalate this issue.
I believe we'll air this interview today.
He wouldn't get into specifics as far as what Bollyn was yelling, but he did tell me on the phone and I related some of those things in my previous post.
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Very interested to hear the interview lisa, if you could please post a link here when it becomes available.
All in all i have to admit the hypothesis of him attempting to make 9-11 researchers look looney is becoming more and more plausible as data is submitted. You guys sure dig stuff up fast.
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For your scrutiny:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn_abused_by_Zionist_Gang.html
Please note: the scanned document shown on Smith's website is NOT the police report. It is the media release.
I specifically asked Lt. Russo if this was the police report and he corrected my initial misperception that it was. It is not a police report of this incident, but a brief media release of information pertaining to the Bollyn incident.
Daryl Smith/Eric Hufschmid inaccurately state that it is the police report on their website.
The actual police report, I suspect, will include much more specific detail of the events than this media release presents.
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Hi, I just registered. I had to make a comment on this article because it struck me as odd, too. I'm not exactly new to the Signs site, been coming out for years.
This paragraph was absolutely the most unbelievable to me:
"But yesterday there was something very unusual around my house. It was an unmarked car with three armed men with body armor driving around my block as I rode my bike to the store. Who in the heck is that? I thought to myself. It looks like they are going to my house, but I won't be there, I thought."
Oh... HE won't be there. Whew. What about his family?
It just doesn't wash.
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