Iceland volcanic ash alert grounds UK flights

I wonder what's the benefit from this new hysteria. New volcanic-ash-proof engines? I mean, there are no vaccines to sell, no naturist-scanners to sell, what's the point?
Every year there are sand storms (maybe the particles of sand are around the same size as the particles of ash) and the planes still fly.
 
mkrnhr said:
I wonder what's the benefit from this new hysteria. New volcanic-ash-proof engines? I mean, there are no vaccines to sell, no naturist-scanners to sell, what's the point?
Every year there are sand storms (maybe the particles of sand are around the same size as the particles of ash) and the planes still fly.

I wonder too, is it to test there over all control or did they need the air space clear over the northern hemisphere so they can test others technologies. Could be that the want to test (Haarp come to my mind) but are afraid of the collateral damage it may impact on air traffic. Just a thought,
 
I wonder what's the benefit from this new hysteria. New volcanic-ash-proof engines? I mean, there are no vaccines to sell, no naturist-scanners to sell, what's the point?
Every year there are sand storms (maybe the particles of sand are around the same size as the particles of ash) and the planes still fly.

When Katrina hit the south, days went by before there was any significant response by F.E.M.A or the state. But from what I have remembered, heard, and read they were quick to close of entries and exists in to the downtown area of New Orleans, Louisiana, and confiscate weapon's of lawful and unlawful citizens. This reminded me of 2 sessions. ( but i can only find one at the moment)I remember just saying but why are they not being helped as days went by. The whole situation seem to gauge the nation, to test the reaction of the country of this activity.


November 19, 1994:

Q:(L) Is Al Bielek really who he claims to be?
A: No. Was technician but not aboard vessel.
Q: (L) So he did not go back and forth in time?
A: Correct.
Q: (T) So he's trying to make himself out to be more than he actually is?
A: Yes.
Q: (J) He is a wannabe?
A: No. He is an agent of the government.
Q: (T) Is Preston also a government agent?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Why are they coming out with this story? Besides disinformation...
A: Slow revelation to effect gauge of public response.
Q: (L) Should V*** stand behind T*** and put her hands on his shoulders for energy?
A: Not necessary because T*** has adequate energy of his own. George Bush was involved with Philadelphia experiment.
Q: (T) He was Navy, World War II. (L) I would like to know what happened to Ambrose Bierce?
A: Dead. Spontaneous combustion.
Q: (L) What happened to Marcia Moore who was working on drug enhanced outer space contact via altered consciousness?
A: Permanent abduction victim by Lizards.
Q: (L) Why?
A: Too close to truth.
Q: (L) Well, are we close to the truth too?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Will we be permanently abducted by the Lizards?
A: Knowledge protects.

July 14, 1996

Q: (L) Then let's start with some basic things. First of all, I have had some contact with a physicist who is interested in the material. And, because of this, I was motivated to pick up a book I had read many years ago about the German occupation of Poland, and there were some very strange things said in this book, and some funny synchronous numbers... It just seemed to be a prototype of the present reality in global terms. My question is: is there some synchronous implication between this contact, the reading of this book when I was 11 years old, and the material we have received through this source?
A: Open.
Q: (L) You have said that the Holocaust was basically a 'practice run' for the ultimate space invasion. Is this invasion supposed to take place as an actual 'aliens invading the planet' scenario, or...
A: Too many thought patterns at once. Step by step, please.
Q: (L) Let's boil it down. Was Hitler's agenda a practice run for a future scenario?
A: Close. Was a "testing" of the will.
Q: (L) Whose will was being tested?
A: Yours.
Q: (L) Me specifically, or the planet?
A: Latter.
Q: (L) In terms of this scenario, is there some lesson that we can learn about what may or may not occur through this book I have mentioned?
A: Maybe, but suggest you learn to blend mosaic consciousness.
Q: (L) What is mosaic consciousness?
A: Thinking in internally spherical terms, rather than using linear "point blank" approach. The whole picture is seen by seeing the whole scene.
Q: (L) Well, I guess that is why I guess I get into so many thought patterns...
A: Picture yourself as being at the center of a mosaic.
Q: (MM) [Incomprehensible comment about mosaics being under repair somewhere.] (L) Okay, I know what you are saying, but I just don't think that there is any way I can DO this!
A: Yes you can!
Q: (L) Okay. Okay. This whole situation, this Polish connection, this German connection, the American and alien things, the soldier/Nephilim thing, these are all manifestations of a Realm Border Crossing, am I correct?
A: Close.
Q: (L) And some of the manifestations of a Realm Border Crossing are that some people graduate or transition to 4th density, that their awareness changes, everything changes, the playing field is leveled. So, what happened in Germany was a 'practice run' but what is going to happen is that the 'playing field' is going to be leveled, so it will not be exactly the same scenario, is this a correct assessment?
A: Maybe. Alright, my dear, you want the facts, so we will give them to you, and hopefully you will comprehend. If not now, then when necessary maybe... Fact one: All there is -- is lessons. Fact two: this is one big school. Fact three: Timing as you perceive it, is never, NEVER definite. Fact four: What is to happen, as you state it, is a ways off, and will not occur until you have reached that point on the learning cycle, and you are not close yet. Now ponder before more facts are given!!
Q: (L) Okay, this being one infinite school and we all seem to be wandering around in the darkness... Fact five: The learning cycle is variable, and progress along it is determined by events and circumstances as they unfold.
Q: (L) So, the events and circumstances of our lives, individually and collectively, can indicate where we are on this learning cycle? And we are asking to have things told to us, or revealed to us about things which are, in themselves, the necessary lessons? And it would be virtually useless to be told about them since they must be experienced?
A: Partly correct. If you want hints, then hints shall we give. But, if you are looking for a "road map?," forgetitski
!!


Chaos at Ferry terminal as thousands return home

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8628125.stm?ls
 
During the recent sandstorm that affected China, Taiwan and Korea, the most inconvenience in terms of air travel that China Daily reported was that "visibility was so bad that several flights had to be delayed at Beijing Capital International Airport."

anart said:
I found it interesting that there are videos of trucks driving through the volcanic ash in Iceland. I was under the impression that volcanic ash wreaks havoc on auto engines as well due to air intake.

I thought the same when I saw this:

Volcano-Sasturday-010.jpg
 
On Friday I heard on the radio that for a short while flights were being allowed in and out of Glasgow airport including planes from Iceland. It seems that in fact 3 flights left for Glasgow that day according to this report -

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Icelandair operates special flights to Glasgow

One of first airlines to fly into Glasgow with school groups whose return flights from Iceland had been cancelled due to volcanic eruption.

Icelandair is to be one of the first airlines flying into the UK following the countrywide grounding of flights due to the volcanic eruption in Iceland. Three special flights on the company’s Boeing 757 aircraft will be operated today, Friday 16th April, from Keflavik International to Glasgow airport. The first two, FI 430 and FI 432 are estimated to arrive in Glasgow at 17:05. The third, FI 434 is estimated to arrive at 19:05.

One of the main reasons for operating these three flights is to get about 600 UK passengers whose return flights from Iceland have been cancelled back home. Among those are several large school groups who were in Iceland for educational geography field trips.


Hjorvar Saeberg Hognason, General Manager – Icelandair UK said “We knew that we had several school groups in Iceland whose return flights had been cancelled due to the eruption. We were in touch with all of them and while they were in good spirits and even enjoying their extra time in Iceland, we knew their parents were anxious and wanted to get them home.” He added “Keflavik International airport has remained open as the volcano is not a threat to the Reykjavik area, so when we received the confirmation that flights from Iceland could operate safely to Glasgow, we arranged for three aircraft to transport passengers whose flights had been cancelled.”

_http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/04/16/icelandair-operates-special-flights-to-glasgow/

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All smells a bit fishy to me.
 
Hello all

I had a busy day, driving the children here and there and I went from south-east London where I live to Banbury in Oxfordshire
then Tring in Hertfordshire - then back to London, between about 1pm and 6730pm today we saw roughly 10 planes and 2 helicopers.

I don't know much about aircraft, but 3 of the planes looked like RAF and were flying together and the rest looked like medium
sized light aircraft, maybe it was a height thing, and they were allowed to fly - but it seemed a little odd given the ban.

Also, when I have seen film reports of the swirling volcanic dust clouds, they seem to be filmed from planes.

Strange. Maybe they are magic carpets or something ;)

Al

saw another one this morning, (Monday)
 
I noticed today on the BBC that they had a "Technical Problem" with their 18:15 weather forecast which meant the voiceover guy who does the links between shows had to just read out a general summary.

It got me thinking if they didn't want people to see satellite imagery of the weather over the UK.
 
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/207046-Iceland-volcano-ash-keeps-Obama-others-from-attending-Polish-president-s-funeral said:
President Obama's Sunday visit to Poland was canceled at the last minute due to the volcanic ash cloud that has paralyzed Europe's air traffic. French President Nicolas Sarkozy, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, and other guests have announced their absence at the ceremony for the same reason.

Russia's President Dmitry Medvedev, however, managed to get there.

Presumably, Russia's President flew in. Seems fishy.
 
update from the KLM website

KLM Operates Commercial Flights on Sunday

KLM Royal Dutch Airlines operated two commercial flights to the Far East on Sunday evening. There were no passengers on board these flights, which both carried cargo and the regular crew complement. The flights bound for Sharjah and Bangkok/Taipei were respectively operated by a Boeing 747 full freighter and a Boeing 747 combi. The Dutch aviation authorities granted KLM permission to operate these flights. Earlier on Sunday, KLM successfully operated nine test flights. None of these flights encountered any problems. According to KLM President & CEO Peter Hartman it is completely safe to operate flights during hours of daylight.

Why would they mention it is safe to fly during hours of daylight?
 
They are now closing airport in NL canada.http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/cp-article.aspx?cp-documentid=23931461 . The cloud is now moving again the wind. :lol:
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This is starting to look like last year "Swine flu pandemia" hype Smiley
I agree with you Avala.
 
http://de.news.yahoo.com/34/20100419/twl-nach-asche-flug-hat-nato-jet-glas-im-6ae0455.html

Brüssel (dpa) - Vulkanasche hat einen NATO-Kampfjet vom Typ F-16 bei einem Testflug über Europa beschädigt. Die Maschine landete am Wochenende mit Glas im Triebwerk, sagte ein hoher US-Beamter am Montag in Brüssel. Das Glas sei aus Vulkanasche entstanden, die in das heiße Triebwerk geriet.

I have not found it in english, but it says basically that during the weekend a F16 from the Nato made a testflight over Europe and was damaged. They found glas back in the engine and this would be made from vulcanic ash.
 
http://de.news.yahoo.com/34/20100419/twl-nach-asche-flug-hat-nato-jet-glas-im-6ae0455.html

Brüssel (dpa) - Vulkanasche hat einen NATO-Kampfjet vom Typ F-16 bei einem Testflug über Europa beschädigt. Die Maschine landete am Wochenende mit Glas im Triebwerk, sagte ein hoher US-Beamter am Montag in Brüssel. Das Glas sei aus Vulkanasche entstanden, die in das heiße Triebwerk geriet.

I have not found it in english, but it says basically that during the weekend a F16 from the Nato made a testflight over Europe and was damaged. They found glas back in the engine and this would be made from vulcanic ash.


Sure, but since then several commercial jets have reported no problems on test flights:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/207073-Test-flights-carried-out-by-airlines-in-Europe-show-no-signs-of-damage-from-ash

Interesting that Nato jets have been carrying out multiple exercises regardless of the "dangerous ash cloud":

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/207104-Jet-engines-can-t-fly-through-ashen-skies-The-very-countries-whose-airspce-is-shut-are-playing-wargames-in-the-emptied-skies
 
Kniall said:
Interesting that Nato jets have been carrying out multiple exercises regardless of the "dangerous ash cloud":

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/207104-Jet-engines-can-t-fly-through-ashen-skies-The-very-countries-whose-airspce-is-shut-are-playing-wargames-in-the-emptied-skies

Maybe that's why they locked down the airport?

What they want to test or to do requires an empty sky?

Would commercial planes interfere with it?

Would they be embarassing witnesses?
 
Q: (L) So, the events and circumstances of our lives, individually and collectively, can indicate where we are on this learning cycle? And we are asking to have things told to us, or revealed to us about things which are, in themselves, the necessary lessons? And it would be virtually useless to be told about them since they must be experienced?
A: Partly correct. If you want hints, then hints shall we give. But, if you are looking for a "road map?," forgetitski

I don't know if it is important but i was rereading this fragment and it just struck me that the last ford "forgetitski" might be acctually a hint.
Majority of polish surnames male declination ends with -ski. Maybe it is a clue about a Polish male book author or witness , I dunno :huh:
 
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