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This topic is about the Creator and the 'mystery' of 'Octaves'. It is going to be 'huge' so please bear with me and i promise it will be worthwhile.
We have called the 'Creator' by many names, 'The One', 'The Infinite', 'The All-ness of All' and the most common: 'God'. The creator is not 'outside' of ourselves as
monotheistic religions claim. Everything in 'creation' is a 'holographic' representation of the same 'force' or 'essence' of the creator. Picture 'god' as an ocean, and a
drop of water to be 'you'. If you pour that 'drop' of water into the ocean, where does the drop of water 'begin' and where does it 'end'. Does it not essentially become
'one and the same thing'? [/quote]
This is what most "new age" people fixate on, they talk about human beings on 3D earth as being like 7D or God. This may be true in an absolute sense, but it is not true for us here. Our job here, as I understand it, is not to try to be like "god" but rather to learn the lessons of this density and proceed onward to the next level of evolution.
[quote author=altamash]
It is said that 'god' does not perceive 'time' and that 'IT' exists in a 'still' state of 'time'. Creator exists on the 7th Density as the 'Cassiopaeans' and 'Ra' have clearly mentioned on various occasions. I imagine the 'Infinite Creator' to be a 'Sphere', an 'illusional sphere'. Since all and everything is an 'illusion' in the 'infinite' mind/thoughts of the Creator.[/quote]
Altamash, imagining the creator to be an "illusional sphere" is all well and good, but what good does it do you, and more to the point, what good does it do anyone else on this forum?
[quote author=altamash]
From Session: 950617
Q: (L) An eye.
A: Now we are starting to turn it into a sphere! Why would it turn into a sphere?
Q: (L) How can it turn into a sphere?
A: How can it not!
Q: (SV) It is going in ALL directions, not just flat...
A: Is a straight line a straight line or a...
Q: (L) Oh, you're not talking about a circle?
A: We are talking about a circle. What becomes of a circle if you expand it outward forever?
Q: (J) It disappears.
A: It disappears? How can it disappear? Where does it disappear to? We ask you that, JR? JR?
Q: (J) Visually, as the outer circle expands, the inner circle becomes smaller and smaller until it disappears. As you continue to expand out with the outer circle,
the inner circle disappears.
A: But where does it disappear to?
Q: (J) A black hole?
A: A black hole. Well, that's a possibility. But, we really didn't want you to concentrate so heavily on the smaller circle, now did we? It's the outer circle.
Q: (T) The outer circle is used to encompass more and more.
A: And what shape does it begin to take on? I want you to look at this outer circle expanding outward!
Q: (J) Are we to assume that the seven spokes remain the same size in relation to the circle?
A: Well, answer that question for yourself.
Q: (L) Okay, we are looking at it as a plane representation. As a flat surface.
A: Well, what happens to a flat surface if you extend it outward forever?
Q: (L) Well, we don't know. That, that... (SV) It keeps on going.
A: It keeps on going?
Q: (L) Yeah, bigger and flatter!
A: It does? What happens to a line if you extend it forever and ever?
Q: (Laura and S***) It keeps on going.
A: It does?
Q: (L) Um hmmm!
A: Where does it go to?
Q: (SV) Forever. (J) Back to itself. (L) We don't know that.
A: Oh, someone said "Back to itself."
So we can imagine a 'forever expanding' circle that returns back to 'itself', sort of like a 'torus' or a doughnut. There are 7 densities in our creation. Those who believe in the 'Big Bang' would imagine it took place in the 6th Density at the 'beginning' of the 'octave'*
*This 'statement' is subject to change upon better understanding/knowledge and awareness.
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altamarsh, the above quote that you excerpted was about" perpendicular realities".
Here's the start of it:
Q: (T) Several sessions back when we were discussing
"Perpendicular Realities" you were talking about something that
happened to me and that I had to look
back over my life and analyze my relationships with other people
from a certain point up until now and you said that this was a
perpendicular reality. What is the
definition of a perpendicular reality?
A: The perpendicular reality primarily, though not exclusively, refers
to one's life path and how one's life path fits together in the cycle or
in a wheel when connected with those of a similar life path.
It is not really helpful for you to take quotes out of context like this to "back up" your own ideas that you yourself are not even convinced of. Please consider that you are posting as much for other readers as yourself. We have a goal here of trying to keep the "signal to noise" ratio high. i.e. less meandering thoughts and more data that can be backed up with as many objective facts as possible.
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From Session: 961221
Q: (L) Well, you once said that it was necessary to be on a planet that had a star that was getting ready to go supernova in order to molecularize physical
bodies. What I want to know is: what is this process whereby thought becomes manifest as matter?
A: This is too complicated for this medium. You need another method. Something that allows for greater word usage.
Q: (L) But, just a clue: how does thought become matter?
A: Bilaterally.
Q: (L) What do you mean by "bilaterally?"
A: Dual emergence.
Q: (L) Emergence into what and what?
A: Not "into what and what," but rather, "from what and to what."
Q: (L) What emerges from what?
A: The beginning emerges from the end, and vice versa.
Q: (L) And what is the beginning and what is the end?
A: Union with the One.
Q: (L) What is the One?
A: 7th density, i.e.: all that is, and is not.
Q: (L) Now, we have managed to dance around the whole thing, and I still do not know how matter comes to be or how time...
A: No.
Q: (L) How can I get where I want to go?
A: You have the basics.
Q: (L) Can you give me a couple more basics?
A: There are no more.
Q: (L) I once asked you if time was gravity?
A: Is a fence the ground?
Q: (L) Is gravity God?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is gravity 7th density?
A: No.
Q: (L) Where does gravity emanate from?
A: Thought center.
Q: (L) You have mentioned thought centers of many occasions. Is there more than one?
A: All are one and all.
Q: (L) If you have a thought center, how do thought centers related to 7th density, the One?
A: Exactly!
Q: (L) Are thought centers 7th density?
A: All is.
Q: (L) All is thought centers?
A: No. All is 7th density.
The 'beginning and the end' concept sounds confusing but i will try to explain. They say the 'beginning emerges from the end and vice versa' what this really means is that 'there is no beginning nor an end', 'IT ALL IS'. This 'illusional' 'beginning' and 'end' is 'Union with the One' i.e. 7th density. They also said: 'All is 7th Density', which makes sense since 'All is God' so to speak. So imagine a 'circle within a circle' and so on, imagine this like a 'Sphere'.
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That's pretty clear from the transcript. I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve here. Can you explain?
[quote author=altamash]
From Session: 950617
A: Hmmm. That's not the way we remember it. The way we remember it is that he had instinct and imagination and when he married his instinct with
imagination, it became reality. And, when it became reality, he had created a reality which he was fully confident would be manifest in the physical third density
reality. It wasn't that he was confident. He knew it to be so. He didn't stop himself by adding prejudice to the equation which is what you are doing when you
say: "Well, we don't know what happens because we have never been there!" Think logically, please. We have told you so many times that everything is a
grand cycle. If it's a grand cycle, we have told you about circles within circles. We have told you about cycles. We have told you about short wave cycles and
long wave cycles. Now, after all this information that you have asked of us, which we have more than happily given to you, would you expect that a straight
line would just go out forever and ever and ever as a straight line? How could it possibly do that? What happens, [(J) remark lost.] if you take, on you third density
earth, and you draw a straight line to the East or to the West [(J) remark lost] or to the North or to the South...
Q: (J) It comes all the way back to itself.
A: Right...
Q: (L) Okay, so we're living in a big globe!
A: Are we?
Q: (L) Well, that is what it sounds like, a big circle?
A: Oh, my, my, my. You need more study and learning, my dear. Need more study. Even your Albert Einstein had a theory about what happened.
Q: (L) Yes, but that was just a theory.
A: Oh, well I guess then... [(J) Not to him.] I guess then it must be dropped. We'll never know. It's just a theory. Well, we'll just forget about it.
Q: (T) I'm still expanding the circle... (SV) Me too.
A: Very good, that was the idea. It keeps going and going and going.
Q: (L) Well, mine does too, but it hasn't come back and met anything. So, what's the point?
A: Does there need to be a point?
Q: (L) Of course!
A: Who says? We are trying to help you learn. When do you expect to shut down this process?
Q: (J) Never. (L) Gee, I hope never.
A: Then there never is a point!
Q: (J) Point taken! (L) There is no point. [Laughter.] Well, if you expand the circle outward and continue expanding it in all directions, it pulls the seven spokes
with it which encompasses more and more space in a cross section, and then turn that circle, you have a sphere.
A: Precisely. But Laura says that means we are living in a big globe. And, maybe we are.
Q: (T) Well, it wouldn't be a big globe, so to speak, it would only be a big globe within the circle. If the circle continues to expand, it would just continue to go
outward and outward and the globe would become bigger and bigger and bigger... (L) You're making me nervous... (T) But it goes outward forever... cause
there is no end to going out...
A: There isn't?
Q: (SV) Nope.
A: Well, then maybe there's no beginning.
Q: (T) Well, there wouldn't be a beginning, just a big, open void. An infinite void...
A: If there's no end and no beginning, then what do you have?
Q: (L) No point. (J) The here and now.
A: The here and now which is also the future and the past. Everything that was, is and will be, all at once.
The reason i highlighted: 'Well, we don't know what happens because we have never been there!', is intended as a 'joke', those who understand this 'joke' will enjoy it. So we're talking about 'circles' and 'cycles' here, 'No Beginning, No End', essentially 'No Point' :D. Why is there 'No Point' ? Simply because 'All IS', 'All at Once' i.e. 'past', 'present/now' and the 'future' is all 'Simultaneous'. It is all 'Happening' in the 'Ever Eternal Now'.
There is another session in reference to the 'no beginning, no end' concept:
From Session: 970315
Q: (L) In the natural state, we know that a photon can have an interaction which causes it to split into positron and an electron. In the natural state, do electrons
come from photons?
A: No.
Q: Okay. In the natural state, where do electrons come from?
A: Aether boundary with material continuum.
Q: Where does the proton come from?
A: 7th density.
Q: So, a proton comes from seventh density, but the electron does not.
A: Not mutually exclusive.
Q: In a substance that conducts electricity, say an electrical wire, you have a circuit where, essentially, electrons get passed from atom to atom along this
pathway. And, yet, they don't run out, and they don't really get used, it is only the resistance that causes heat that causes the incandescence...
A: Gravity center of planet is also "window" to all other density levels and dimensional planes of existence, which is why electrically charged atoms "ground" in
order to pass on to other planes through gravity binder.
Q: Getting back to my question of the passing of electrons along a circuit: what force is it that initiates the passing of one electron to another atom that manifests
as electricity?
A: Electrical energy is merely "tapped," collected, trapped, then channeled.
Q: If it is tapped, where is it tapped from?
A: Collecting electrons.
Q: What is a collecting electron?
A: Not "a" collecting electron. It is collecting them.
Q: What is collecting the electrons?
A: The utilizers. Electrons are "free" energy.
Q: Okay, but where... I am thinking that in an electrical circuit, the electrons that are there, are the ones that are started with, the ones that are passed along,
and the ones that are still there when the circuit is broken and the passing of electrons stops. Am I wrong?
A: Yes.
Q: Okay... then...
A: There is no beginning or end.
Q: Then electricity is, in essence, a flow of electrons?
A: Yes.
Q: You say they are tapped. Where are they tapped from? What is the source of these free electrons?
A: All materials. All matter. All aether.
I would rather not comment on the above session as this is not my area of expertise but i can relate to how: 'There is no beginning or end'. More about the 'Sphere':
From Session: 950617
Does the sphere keep expanding... as the circle expands and you turn the circle 180 ', you get a sphere.
As the sphere continues to expand it, you take a point on the outer edge of the sphere in order to take the sphere about itself, you get a donut, an ever
expanding inner tube. (L) With a black hole in the middle! (SV) Why does it have to be a black hole? (J) It's a spiral. (T) If you take that and twist it, you get
an even larger inner tube. It just continues to expand and encompasses more space...
A: And now, when you merge densities, or traverse densities, what you have is the merging of physical reality and ethereal reality, which involves thought form
versus physicality. When you can merge those perfectly, what you realize then, is that the reason there is no beginning and no end is merely because there is no
need for you to contemplate a beginning or an end after you have completed your development. When you are at union with the One at Seventh density, that is
when you have accomplished this and then there is no longer any need for difference between physical and ethereal forms.
Now what they are probably getting at is that there really is no such thing as 'Time' and that 'time' really is also the 'illusion':
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altamash, this is all patently obvious from the transcripts. There really isn't any need for you to state the obvious like this.
[quote author=altamash]
From Session: 950617
Q: (L) The point is that you may say that you would like to get rid of time and you may understand it conceptually, but something internal keeps you tied to it.
How do you get rid of that internal connection?
A: Something internal keeps you tied to it?
Q: (J) Like circadian rhythms, its physical.
A: We feel you are missing the point.
Q: (L) Well, maybe I am.
A: You see, we speak to all of you when we say this. It's now time for you, as individuals, to try to move away, as much as possible, not to force yourselves, of
course, but to try and move away at your own pace as much as possible, from the constraints of third density. You have all learned lessons to the level where
you are more than ready to begin to prepare for fourth density. Third density involves a level of physicality and restriction and restraint and all of the things that
go along with those, that you no longer need. So, therefore, even though we understand that at times it may feel comfortable to cling to this, there is time for
you, and there is that word again, it is time for you to consider moving ahead and get ready for fourth density and not to be concerned with such things as time or
how to free yourself from the illusion of time. That really is not important. That's like the third grade student delving into mathematics and stopping everything to
go back and contemplate the ABC's and why it isn't CBA or BAC*. There really is no point. It is what it is. They are what they are.
Q: (L) That is what I want to know, what is it?
A: Why do you need to know this?
Q: (L) Because I am curious. What is time?
A: We have already told you that it is a non-existent, artificial creation of illusion for the point of learning at the level where you are at or were, and once you
have left that level, you no longer need it.
Q: (T) Maybe one of the lessons is to learn not to worry about time. Once you learn that time is not real... (SV) Tell that to your boss!
A: If something is not real, is there any concern in worrying about what it is?
Q: (T) Not, for me.
A: Imagine a conversation between two people: Billy and Gene. Billy says to Gene, "There is no such thing as time." Gene says, "Oh, really? But I want to
know what it is." Billy says, "But I just told you there is no such thing. Time does not exist. It is not real in any form, in any frame of reference, in any form of
reality, any level of density. It simply does not exist." And, Gene says: "Oh, that's interesting. Now, again, what is this time?"
Q: (L) Point taken. (T) Do you wear a watch? (L) No. (SV) I have to because of my schedule. (T) But, you wear the watch because other people believe in
time? (SV) Yes. (T) And that is out of courtesy for their belief, not your belief.
A: That is precisely correct. While you are still in this third density it is still necessary for you to conform, to a certain extent, to the ways of others who are
more comfortable within the realm of third density. But, as we have stated previously, perhaps it is "time" for you to begin preparing for fourth density and not
concern yourself any more than is absolutely necessary with all the where's and why's and what for's of third density reality. This truly is behind you, now, and
we know that because we can see from all levels six through one and back again in full cycle.
Q: (L) Going along with that statement, and this is going to have to be the last question; preparing for fourth density: not too long ago I asked a question about
the purpose of this group and the answer was that if we knew, or, more specifically if I knew, I would become "unglued." Was that meant literally?
A: Oh, yes certainly. Every single bone in your body is going to unglue itself from every other.
Q: (J) You are going to turn into a puddle. (L) Well, since you are saying that it is time for us to begin preparing for fourth density, maybe it is time to deal with
that question?
A: Well, perhaps you are trying to steer us, now. This is amusing because, of course, you sought our help, now I guess you are going to put us in your place
and vice versa. But, actually, in a way, that is what is already happening, because, again, we must remind, that we are you in the future and we have already
experienced all that you are experiencing. And, of course, we are experiencing as it is always being experienced. But, it is important to note that you have been
making progress despite our occasional chidings, and we are very proud of the progress you have been making. Also, we want to remind you again not to
worry about the extent of the progress or the direction it is taking. Just let it happen. All knowledge that it is absolutely necessary for you to gain to sustain this
progress will be gained at the appropriate point in ... [chorus] TIME. Therefore, not to worry as it will all fall into place, as we have told you. Now, we do not
feel that you are ready, as yet, to know what your ultimate purpose is, nor is it necessary for you to know, and it certainly would not be helpful in any way, so
we ask again that you please not worry about that because when the "time" comes for you to know, you will.
Q: (SV) I want to ask one question: If there is no time, there is no past and no future; there are no past lives and no future lives, there is no such thing as
reincarnation, then how can you be us...
A: Yes, there is reincarnation. You are getting ahead of yourself there. We never said there is no reincarnation.
Q: (SV) But, if there is no time? (J) It is our perception of it. (L) It is all happening simultaneously. We are having all of these lifetimes at once. (SV) Is there a
way that we can connect ourselves with all our other selves?
A: Picture it this way: we will access some of your memory banks and give you another reference which, interestingly enough, fits very closely with the
perpendicular reality wheel that we described earlier. You know what a slide projector looks like? To give you some feeling of what this expanded nature of
reality really is, picture yourself watching a big slide presentation with a big slide wheel on the projector. At any given point along the way you are watching one
particular slide. But, all the rest of the slides are present on the wheel, are they not? And, of course, this fits in with the perpendicular reality, which fits in with
the circles within circles and cycles within cycles, which also fits in the Grand Cycle, which also fits in with what we have told you before: All there is is lessons.
That's all there is... [(J) I have a comment...] ...and we ask that you enjoy them as you are watching the slide presentation...
Q: (J) In that analogy, the light that shines through the slide, as it projects it upon the screen, is our perception.
A: And, if you look back at the center of the projector, you see the origin and essence of all creation itself, which, is level seven where you are in union with the
One.
*I laughted out loud at this comment!
'Time' clearly is an 'illusion' since 'everything' is 'happening' in the 'ever eternal NOW', 'simultaneously'. And i like that example by the C's of a 'movie projector', how
when you 'look back at the center of the projector, you see the origin and essence of all creation itself'.
Let me add one more quote by the C's:
From Session: 950507
Q: (L) Okay, now I was reading through the transcripts a while ago and it says that a Black Hole is total non- existence which is regenerated at level one. Or,
that the regeneration at level one is a reflection of a Black Hole. Is a Black Hole a level one phenomenon or a level seven phenomenon?
A: One through four only.
Q: (L) Is there any representation of the Black Hole phenomenon, that is, total non-existence, at the higher levels, that is, five through seven?
A: See previous answer.
Q: (T) Well, if the Black Hole is pure STS at level one through four, at level five through seven there is only pure STO. (SV) They said earlier that there was
STS at level five and six. (T) But, that's reflection. (L) Thought form.
A: Encapsulated at five.
Q: (L) Is there, after level seven, is there another...
A: No "after seven," suggest "refresher course" of transcripts!
Q: (L) Well, the question you didn't let me finish was, is there an octave, does this step up and start the whole thing over like the octaves on a piano?
A: SPA. abbreviated for 'see previous answer'
Q: (L) Well, there is an awful lot of stuff being touted around about octaves and so forth.
A: Grand cycle, and who is doing the "touting" that you speak of?
Q: (L) One of the persons who talks of the octave cycle is Gurdjieff, the Sufi teachings, several of the great philosophical teachings talk about the octave effect.
There is the cycle of seven and the next cycle is at a higher level and is called an octave like the segments on the musical scale.
A: Who are we?
Q: (L) The Cassiopaeans.
A: Yes, now, we have volunteered to assist you in your development, yes?
Q: (L) So, throw all that other crap out the window?
A: If there were a level eight, do you think we would have failed to mention it at this point?!?
So clearly there is no such thing as '8th density' or to represent 'octave' as '8th density'. There is no other 'significant' mention of the term 'octave' in the Cassiopaean Transcripts between 1994-2002.
Here is a quote from the 'Ra Material':
The Law of One, Book I, Session 13
January 29, 1981
Page: 106 of 817 (the ebook that i have)
Questioner: Was the galaxy that we are in created by the infinite intelligence or was it created by a
portion of the infinite intelligence?
Ra: I am Ra. The galaxy and all other things of material of which you are aware are products of
individualized portions of intelligent infinity. As each exploration began, it, in turn, found its focus and
became co-Creator. Using intelligent infinity each portion created an universe and allowing the rhythms
of free choice to flow, playing with the infinite spectrum of possibilities, each individualized portion
channeled the love/light into what you might call intelligent energy, thus creating the so-called Natural
Laws of any particular universe.
Each universe, in turn, individualized to a focus becoming, in turn, co-Creator and allowing further
diversity, thus creating further intelligent energies regularizing or causing Natural Laws to appear in the
vibrational patterns of what you would call a solar system. Thus, each solar system has its own, shall we
say, local coordinate system of illusory Natural Laws. It shall be understood that any portion, no matter
how small, of any density or illusory pattern contains, as in an holographic picture, the one Creator
which is infinity. Thus all begins and ends in mystery.
Clearly 'One is All and All is One', or like the 3 musketeers used to say: 'All for One, One for All' :D, 'One is Infinity', also:
The Law of One, Book I, Session 16
January 31, 1981
Page: 127 of 817 (the ebook that i have)
Questioner: Can you give me some kind of history of your social memory complex and how you
became aware of the Law of One?
Ra: I am Ra. The path of our learning is graven in the present moment. There is no history, as we
understand your concept. Picture, if you will, a circle of being. We know the alpha and omega as infinite
intelligence. The circle never ceases. It is present. The densities we have traversed at various points in
the circle correspond to the characteristics of cycles: first, the cycle of awareness; second, the cycle of
growth; third, the cycle of self-awareness; fourth, the cycle of love or understanding; fifth, the cycle of
light or wisdom; sixth, the cycle of light/love, love/light or unity; seventh, the gateway cycle; eighth, the
octave which moves into a mystery we do not plumb.
Now you're probably thinking the C's specifically told us 'there is no such thing as '8th density' so whats goin on here ? I will talk about this mystery later on in this article. Continue reading:
The Law of One, Book I, Session 6
January 24, 1981
Page: 51 of 817 (the ebook that i have)
Questioner: Where is this Council located?
Ra: I am Ra. This Council is located in the octave, or eighth dimension, of the planet Saturn, taking its
place in an area which you understand in third-dimension terms as the rings.
Here Ra describes the 'octave' as 'eighth dimension' not '8th density', and continue reading:
The Law of One, Book I, Session 11
January 28, 1981
Page 88 of 817 (the ebook that i have)
Questioner: Is there anyone in our history who is commonly known who went to a fourth-density selfservice
or negative type of planet or any who will go there?
Ra: I am Ra. The number of entities thus harvested is small. However, a few have penetrated the eighth
level which is only available from the opening up of the seventh through the sixth. Penetration into the
eighth or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any
time/space during the cycle.
Is the above a reference to the 'octave' again ? Continue reading:
The Law of One, Book I, Session 14
January 29, 1981
Page 116 of 817 (the ebook that i have)
Questioner: Where did the information come from that Edgar Cayce channeled?
Ra: I am Ra. We have explained before that the intelligent infinity is brought into intelligent energy
from eighth density or octave. The one sound vibratory complex called Edgar used this gateway to view
the present, which is not the continuum you experience but the potential social memory complex of this
planetary sphere. The term your peoples have used for this is the “Akashic Record” or the “Hall of
Records.” This is the last question which you may now ask.
Clearly Ra is contradicting what the Cassiopaeans said about '8th density' or is this a 'human typo' ? Perhaps Ra wished to address it as 'eighth dimension'.
Nevertheless its the 'octave' that is being talked about and what we have learned so far is that it's also known as 'intelligent infinity' i.e. 'God' or '7th density', 'Union with the One'. Continue reading:
The Law of One, Book I, Session 16
January 31, 1981
Page 131 of 817 (the ebook that i have)
Questioner: Could you define the word density as we have been using it?
Ra: I am Ra. The term density is a, what you call, mathematical one. The closest analogy is that of
music, whereby after seven notes on your western type of scale, if you will, the eighth note begins a new
octave. Within your great octave of existence which we share with you, there are seven octaves or
densities. Within each density there are seven sub-densities. Within each sub-density, are seven sub-subdensities.
Within each sub-sub-density, seven sub-sub-sub-densities and so on infinitely.
Now it makes sense, there are truly only 7 densities, Continue reading:
The Law of One, Book II, Session 28
February 22, 1981
Page 233 of 817 (the ebook that i have)
Questioner: I am assuming that there are eight densities created when this major galaxy was created. Is
this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is basically correct. However, it is well to perceive that the eighth density functions
also as the beginning density or first density, in its latter stages, of the next octave of densities.
Questioner: Are you saying then that there are an infinite number of octaves of densities one through
eight?
Ra: I am Ra. We wish to establish that we are truly humble messengers of the Law of One. We can
speak to you of our experiences and our understandings and teach/learn in limited ways. However, we
cannot speak in firm knowledge of all the creations. We know only that they are infinite. We assume an
infinite number of octaves.
However, it has been impressed upon us by our own teachers that there is a mystery-clad unity of
creation in which all consciousness periodically coalesces and again begins. Thus we can only say we
assume an infinite progression though we understand it to be cyclical in nature and, as we have said,
clad in mystery.
'8th density' is '1st density' ? hmm... nonetheless my topic is about 7th density and the 'Octaves' really. We can understand that the 'octaves' are also 'infinite'. They
say they 'know they are infinite'. Again they bring up the 'mystery' which is really 'mysterious' to think about and i have a feeling im getting closer to the 'truth' behind
this mystery. I was thinking about this 'mystery' before i decided to write this article while 'collecting facts'. Though i have reached some form of conclusion about
this 'mystery' i am going to wait till the end of this article before i 'reveal' it. So it can be said that as i am writing this 'article', I am also 'learning' in the process.
Another quote by Ra which should give an idea to the 'enlightened' ones what this 'mystery' is about:
The Law of One, Book IV, Session 81
March 22, 1982
Page 607 of 817 (the ebook that i have)
Questioner: Why does Ra not have any knowledge of that which was prior to the beginning of this
octave?
Ra: I am Ra. Let us compare octaves to islands. It may be that the inhabitants of an island are not alone
upon a planetary sphere, but if an ocean-going vehicle in which one may survive has not been invented,
true knowledge of other islands is possible only if an entity comes among the islanders and says, “I am
from elsewhere.” This is a rough analogy. However, we have evidence of this sort, both of previous
creation and creation to be, as we in the stream of space/time and time/space view these apparently nonsimultaneous
events.
So a 'being' of 6th Density has some 'idea' what the 'previous' and 'next' 'cycle' or 'octave' is going to be like ? hmm, continue reading:
The Law of One, Book I, Session 16
January 31, 1981
Page 127-128 of 817 (the ebook that i have)
Questioner: Thank you very much. In previous material, before we communicated with you, it was
stated by the Confederation that there is actually no past or future … that all is present. Would this be a
good analogy?
Ra: I am Ra. There is past, present, and future in third density. In an overview such as an entity may
have, removed from the space/time continuum, it may be seen that in the cycle of completion there
exists only the present. We, ourselves, seek to learn this understanding. At the seventh level or
dimension, we shall, if our humble efforts are sufficient, become one with all, thus having no memory,
no identity, no past or future, but existing in the all.
Questioner: Does this mean that you would have awareness of all that is?
Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. It is our understanding that it would not be our awareness, but
simply awareness of the Creator. In the Creator is all that there is. Therefore, this knowledge would be
available.
Some people get confused here thinking 'woah' once i reach the 'top', i'll 'forget myself' and have to 'start' all over 'again', 'big bang' or whatever but if you read
closely as to what they are trying to say, it becomes clear that its only 'Your identity' or 'individualness' that is truly 'lost', you become 'one' with 'everything', thereby
having knowledge of 'all there is to know'. Furthermore you are already becoming 'one' gradually after 4th density and onwards. Refer to 'social/memory/complex'
in 4th density, 'unified thought forms' of 6th density etc.
A vital and most important 'clue' given by the Cassiopaeans, i wonder how many people 'remember' and 'truly understand' this one:
From Session: 960203
Q: (L) Okay, now, there are a lot of current teachings that say that the 'dregs' of other planets are being sent to Earth to 'refine' them, so to speak, and that this
is why the human race is so divided and antagonistic... that the interactions are supposed to result in annihilation of the weak and survival of the strong in both
physical and spiritual terms.
A: First of all, confusion abounds here due to incorrect interpretations of the last subject discussed. Dimensions are not densities!!!! Dimensions are strictly the
result of the universal consciousness as manifested in the imagination sector of thought. Density means level of development as measured in terms of closeness
to union with the one... Cycle. So, obviously, the "chupacabras" is a manifestation of human consciousness, and, human beings are a manifestation of the
Chupacabras consciousness. Get it? Now, a shocker for you: You would not exist if someone didn't "dream you up."
Q: (L) Who dreamed me up?
A: Not important just yet. You literally are the "figments" of someone's imagination, and nothing more!!!
Q: (L) You mean God dreams and brings us into existence?
A: Remember, "God" is really all existence in creation, in other words, all consciousness. This is because all existence in creation is consciousness, and vice
versa.
Well, i'll 'save' the 'figment of someone's imagination' part for later, this is the most important 'clue' to understand the 'creator/god/you/me/everything'. And since
'God' is really 'all existence in creation', 'all is 7th density' or 'All is God'.
So what have we 'learned' so far ? That 'God' is 'One' and 'Infinite', that 'time' is an 'illusion'. Creation spans/is 7 densities, and all is 'happening now'.
What you are about to read now is based on my understanding of 'all that is' and is subject to change at any moment. Nothing is 'written in stone'.
So 'God' 'thought' of this 'octave', 'scripted it', threw in 'free will' which makes the 'outcomes' non-deterministic at some level which makes it 'fun'. If you 'know' the
outcome of your 'movie', do you think you'll still have 'fun' or 'enjoy it' ?
I imagine the so called 'big bang' happened at 6th density by the 'Co-Creators'. They 'created' everything down to 1st density with infinite probabilites. Infinite
'outcomes' and infinite 'dimensions'. They modified it to create 'balance' all the time, this was done by 4th thru 6th density STO. This 'big bang' never 'happened' in
the 'literal/linear' term in 6th density downwards. Its like saying: 6d beings 'activated' the 'game' which not only 'started creating', 'is being created/added
to/upgrade/updated' and 'finished creating'.
Since all is 'happening now' in the 'infinite probabilities' of 'choice and action', 7th density is more or less 'One Being' with 'Infinite Thoughts' represented as
'Octaves' of 'Creation' and the 'Creation' is also the 'Created', since its all 'NOW'
And what are 'Thoughts' anyways ? Read please:
From Session: 950111
Q: (L) What is the correct concept?
A: All is just lessons.
Q: (L) Whose thoughts are they?
A: Thoughts unify all reality in existence and are all shared.
Q: (S) You travel on a wave of energy created by all thought forms?
A: Thought forms are all that exists!
From Session: 960609
Q: (L) You say that you are unified thought forms in the realm of knowledge.
A: Yes.
'God' is 'One', 'One' is 'All/Infinite'. 'All' is but a mere 'Thought', 'Infinite Thoughts'.
So has anyone figured out the 'mystery' now ? Here it goes:
This 'Octave' is not the only creation 'happening' in the Creator's Mind, 'Infinite Octaves/Thoughts' representing 'Infinite Creations' is 'happening' in 7th density.
Meaning, you could understand that the 'universe' is 'infinite' from 1st to 6th density, but that is not 'All'. 7th density is 'One' big 'never ending orgasm' so
to speak.
'Multi-tasking' is 'FUN' isnt it ?
0% Chance 'YOU' can be bored!
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altamash, you have just quoted a large amount of information to basically make a point, that is pretty clear to anyone who has read the transcripts, that "all is one". There is no need to quote so much to make this point, and it would help if you explained WHY you were making this point. Please try and remember to be externally considerate of the other members who, I presume, you expect to read your posts.
