Roses Grow Best in Manure by Laura Knight-Jadczyk

Getting back to the subject of accuracy and deception during this time of the approach of The Wave, let's look at the excerpt we presented at the beginning of Wave 10, only this time, in a fuller context:

09-02-95
Q: (L) Now, could you tell us a little bit about the purported "Photon Belt?"
A: The key issue remains one of interpretation. The messages are genuine; interpretations are variable in their accuracy. So, when one speaks of the "Photon Belt," one may really be thinking of a concept and giving it a name.
Q: (L) So, you mean that various persons are seeing something and only describing it within the limits of their knowledge?
A: At one level, yes.
Q: (L) Was there a harmonic convergence as was advertised within the metaphysical community?
A: For those who believed there was a harmonic convergence, indeed there was a harmonic convergence.
Q: (L) Did anything of an objective, material nature happen on or to the planet to enhance or change the energy?
A: Did you notice any changes?
Q: (L) No. Except that it seems that things have gotten objectively worse, if anything.
A: Did you notice any clear, obvious, material changes?
Q: (L) No. But that could just be me. I could just be a stubborn and skeptical person.
A: Did anyone else in the room notice any clear or obvious changes?
Q: (S) What date was it? (L) 8/8/88, I believe. (S) I thought it had something to do with 11/11 ninety- something...
A: Well, obviously if the recollection of the calendar date was difficult, one would suppose that material changes on the planet did not take place. For, if they had, would you not remember the calendar date ascribed to them?
Q: (L) Yes. The claim has further been made that, for a month, following the harmonic convergence that no abductions were taking place. Is this true?
A: No. There has been no cessation in what you term to be abduction in quite some time as you measure it.

In our efforts to maintain accuracy and purity of the source, we have consistently resisted the "standard" channelling techniques of trance or "telepathy" etc. It is far too easy to "substitute" subjective, emotional thinking for objective reality, particularly when the objective reality is, by human perspective, unpleasant. As you will have noted in the previous discussions, there is greater potential for corruption when there is also a great deal of verbiage. In other words, it seems that the "wordier" the source, the more easily corruption can enter it.

Now, let's go back again to the concerns of the correspondent who wrote:

Aliens will invade in some form or other between now and 2018 [2012]or something, causing even more fear and confusion than there is already, then try to take us over or annilate us or let the earth changes do that and then seed earth with their own race. About the same time this is all happening the wave will strike and half of the world or more (people and landmass) is wobbling in and out of 4th density and then transitions completely. Those of us who have not been wiped out by earth changes or the busy lizzies and gone to 5th density dead zone (there to decide what to do next) will find ourselves in 4th density earth which will look very weird to us and will take some getting used to, only to find ourselves in the same situation environmentally,[with] 4th density orions or lizzies trying to manipulate and control us there as they have been doing here for millennia.

In short as you said to the cassies the picture looks ugly. They said that you seem to think that only good experience is useful, well no, but at least there is usually a mix of good and bad but in their scenario we are all for the high jump with no mat on the other side though. (splat)

I would like to say that this scenario, though it does seem to be exactly what the Cassiopaeans are saying, is only a PROBABLE FUTURE. So, as a way of answering this question, I want to present here sections of a particular session in which an experience of my own was being discussed.

To give you a little background, as I have said before, up to a certain moment in time I do not ever remember seeing or experiencing an "alien" being or an "abduction" that could be clearly stated to be such - whether it was assumed to be physical or imaginal. I HAVE made disconcerting discoveries about my state when awakening, or have dream-like memories of very strange things which then corresponded to some sort of physical or material anomaly that I would immediately "sweep under the rug." But, in the following case, I DID wake up in the night to very strange activity which I have described more fully elsewhere on the site. Here, I want to focus on the LESSON of that experience applied in GLOBAL terms. So, let's look at it again, edited and arranged for this particular purpose:

07-23-95
Q: (L) The first thing on my mind is an experience I had several nights ago. It seemed as though there was some sort of interaction between myself and something "other." Could you tell me what this experience was?
A: Was eclipsing of the realities.
Q: (L) What is an eclipsing of the realities?
A: It is when energy centers conflict.
Q: (L) What energy centers are conflicting?
A: Thought energy centers.
Q: (L) Whose thoughts?
A: Thoughts are the basis of all creation. After all, without thought nothing would exist. Now would it?
Q: (L) True.
A: Therefore, energy centers conflicting involve thought patterns. You could refer to it as an intersecting of thought pattern energies. ...
Q: (L) I also seemed to be aware of several dark, spider-like figures lined up by the side of the bed, was this an accurate impression.
A: Those could be described as specific thought center projections.
Q: (L) I seemed to be fighting and resisting this activity.
A: That was your choice. ...
Q: (L) At what level of density do these thought centers have their primary focus?
A: Thought centers do not have primary focus in any level of density. This is precisely the point. You are not completely familiar with the reality of what thoughts are. We have spoken to you on many levels and have detailed many areas involving density level, but thoughts are quite a different thing because they pass through all density levels at once. Now, let us ask you this. Do you not now see how that would be possible?
Q: (L) Yes. But what I am trying to do is identify these conflicting thought centers. If two thought centers, or more, conflict, then my idea would be that they are in opposition.
A: Correct. ...
Q: (L) Okay, in the experience I felt a paralysis of my body, what caused this paralysis.
A: Yes. Separation of awareness. Which is defined as any point along the pathway where one's awareness becomes so totally focused on one thought sector that all other levels of awareness are temporarily receded, thereby making it impossible to become aware of one's physical reality along with one's mental reality. This gives the impression of what is referred to as paralysis. Do you understand?
Q: (L) Yes. And what stimulates this total focus of awareness?
A: An event which sidetracks, temporarily, the mental processes.
Q: (L) And what event can sidetrack the mental processes to this extent?
A: Any number.
Q: (L) In this particular case, what was it?
A: It was an eclipsing of energies caused by conflicting thought centers. Whenever two opposing units of reality intersect, this causes what can be referred to as friction, which, for an immeasurable amount of what you would refer to as time, which is, of course, non-existent, creates a non-existence, or a stopping of the movements of all functions. This is what we would know as conflict. In between, or through any intersecting, opposite entities, we always find zero time, zero movement, zero transference, zero exchange. Now think about this. Think about this carefully.
Q: (L) Does this mean that I was, essentially, in a condition of non-existence?
A: Well, non-existence is not really the proper term, but non-fluid existence would be more to the point. Do you understand?
Q: (L) Yes. Frozen, as it were?
A: Frozen, as it were.
Q: (L) Was there any benefit to me from this experience?
A: All experiences have potential for benefit.
Q: (L) Was there any detriment from this experience?
A: All experiences have potential for detriment. Now, do you see the parallels? We are talking about any opposing forces in nature, when they come together, the result can go all the way to the extreme of one side or all the way to the extreme of the other. Or, it can remain perfectly, symmetrically in balance in the middle, or partially in balance on one side or another. Therefore all potentials are realized at intersecting points in reality. ...
Q: (L) Was one of these conflicting thought centers or energies some part of me?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And was it eclipsed by interacting with a thought center energy that was part of or all of something or someone else?
A: Or, was what happened a conflicting of one energy thought center that was a part of your thought process and another energy thought center that was another part of your thought process? We will ask you that question and allow you to contemplate.
Q: (L) Does it ever happen that individuals who perceive or think they perceive themselves to have experienced an "abduction," to actually be interacting with some part of themselves?
A: That would be a very good possibility. Now, before you ask another question, stop and contemplate for a moment: what possibilties does this open up? Is there any limit? And if there is, what is that? Is it not an area worth exploring? For example - just one example for you to digest - what if the abduction scenario could take place where your soul projection, in what you perceive as the future, can come back and abduct your soul projection in what you perceive as the present?
Q: (L) Oh, dear! Does this happen?
A: This is a question for you to ask yourself and contemplate.
Q: (L) Why would I do that to myself? (J) To gain knowledge of the future.
A: Are there not a great many possible answers?
Q: (L) Well, this seemed to be a very frightening and negative experience. If that is the case: a) maybe that is just my perception, or b) then, in the future I am not a very nice person! (J) Or maybe the future isn't very pleasant. And the knowledge that you gained of it is unpleasant.
A: Or is it one possible future, but not all possible futures? And is the pathway of free will not connected to all of this?
Q: (L) God! I hope so.
A: Now do you see the benefit in slowing down and not having prejudices when asking questions of great import? You see when you speed too quickly in the process of learning and gathering knowledge, it is like skipping down the road without pausing to reflect on the ground beneath you. One misses the gold coins and the gemstones contained within the cracks in the road. ...
Q: (L) Okay, when this experience occurred, am I to assume that some part of myself, a future self perhaps, of course they are all simultaneous but just for the sake of reference, came back and interacted with my present self for some purpose of exchange?
A: Well this is a question best left for your own exploration as you will gain more knowledge by contemplating it by yourself rather than seeking the answers here. But a suggestion is to be made that you do that as you will gain much, very much knowledge by contemplating these very questions on your own and networking with others as you do so. Be not frustrated for the answers to be gained through your own contemplation will be truly illuminating to you and the experience to follow will be worth a thousand lifetimes of pleasure and joy.

Wwhat can we deduce about the Eclipsing of Realities discussion?

The first thing that occurs to me is a result of a conversation I had with another Seeker on the Path who visited me a few days ago. There are a number of events in my life that I am not yet ready to talk about publicly, but which I shared with this lady in the course of our discussion. At one point, she made the remark that, in her opinion, my life experiences had been a sort of microcosmic example of the battle between the forces of good and evil - that my very physical body, soul and mind had been the battleground. It was her opinion that the "good guys" had won because, in the end, all the physical, mental and spiritual destruction that had been effected against me had been healed, reversed, and/or restored to proper function and balance.

This is, in some sense, true. But, what does it mean if we wish to apply it Globally? Or even just for some others?

The Cassiopaeans said I experienced a conflict of thought centers. This was further elaborated:

It seems that, if I had continued in the "old life," the "wishful thinking" subjective version of reality, (where I was still "Martin" in this alternate reality), I would have progressed to a point in space time when I BECAME those horrible creatures that were trying to abduct me!

Now, I did NOT change my reality by "visualization," or "affirmations" or any of the standard teachings about "create your own reality." In fact, if anything, I did exactly the opposite. What actually happened was, I opened my eyes and... I completely lost hope in the world as it is ever being anything other than full of darkness and deception and horror and pain.

I wonder if this was what Don Elkins saw? If so, it is indeed sad that he did not have the information about how this state is essential, how this state can be used by dark forces to derail the spiritual seeker who MUST go through it in order to be Born Again.

How does one become "Born Again?" It is just as traumatic as being born the first time, if not moreso! Taking my first breath in the "new reality," I made a conscious choice to LIMIT MY PARTICIPATION in this deception foisted on mankind. I consciously decided that I was no longer going to lie - to myself or anyone - about how I felt or what I wanted. I was no longer going to lie about what I liked or didn't like or what I did or did not want to do. I was no longer going to lie to myself that my suffering and sacrifices had any benefit for anyone whatsoever, because it was clear to me that this was NOT true. It was all an illusion or delusion. In short, I was no longer going to lie to myself about reality at all. When I looked at a flower I was going to remember the decay and death in the soil from which the flower drew its nourishment. When I looked at a cat or a dog, I was going to remember the fleas and parasites and killing and eating of other creatures that goes on all the time in the animal world. When I looked at a beautiful and peaceful lake, I was going to remember the loads of disease causing organisms multiplying prolificly beneath the shining, mirrored surface.

Sounds pretty bizarre, yes? But it had a strange effect.

Because I was no longer lying to myself about anything that existed, least of all myself, my nature, my being, I was free to choose WHAT to manifest in every instant. Knowing that all of these "shadows" existed within me, in my very DNA, my flesh, my "evolved" self; knowing that I had experienced many lifetimes dealing death and destruction on my own, or suffering the same at the hands of others, I was free to CHOOSE. And further, I knew that the choice WAS free! If I had chosen to follow the path of STS, to dive back into the illusion, there would be no blame. As Ra said: The ALL blinks neither at the darkness nor at the light.

There was no longer any blame for anything. It was just WHAT IS. This is NATURE. This is GOD.

And I was reminded of the scene in the Tennessee William's play Suddenly Last Summer where Mrs. Venable says:

We saw the Encantadas, but on the Encantadas we saw something Melville hadn't written about. We saw the great sea-turtles crawl up out of the sea for their annual egg-laying... Once a year the female of the sea-turtle crawls up out of the equatorial sea onto the blazing sand-beach of a volcanic island to dig a pit in the sand and deposit her eggs there. It's a long and dreadful thing, the depositing of the eggs in the sand-pits, and when it's finished the exhausted female turtle crawls back to the sea half-dead. She never sees her offspring, but we did. Sebastian knew exactly when the sea-turtle eggs would be hatched out and we returned in time for it...

Terrible. Encantadas, those heaps of extinct volcanos, in time to witness the hatching of the sea-turtles and their desperate flight to the sea! The narrow beach, the color of caviar, was all in motion! But the sky was in motion too... Full of flesh-eating birds and the noise of the birds, the horrible savage cries of the - carnivorous birds... Over the narrow black beach of the Encantadas as the just hatched sea-turtles scrambled out of the sand-pits and started their race to the sea... to escape the flesh-eating birds that made the sky almost as black as the beach!

And the sand all alive, all alive, as the hatched sea-turtles made their dash for the sea, while the birds hovered and swooped to attack and hovered and swooped to attack! They were diving down on the hatched sea-turtles, turning them over to expose their soft undersides, tearing the undersides open and rending and eating their flesh. Sebastian guessed that possibly only a hundredth of one per cent of their number would escape to the sea...

My son was looking for God, I mean for a clear image of him. He spent that whole blazing equatorial day in the crow's nest of the schooner watching this thing on the beach till it was too dark to see it, and when he came down the rigging he said "Well, now I've seen Him!," and he meant God. And for several weeks after that he had a fever, he was delirious with it. [Huffer, 1958]

There I was, having my own "sea-turtle" experience and yes, I was sick for a long time after. It is curious to me that, faced with the destruction of every fairy tale I ever believed in about the world, I couldn't cry. At least not in the regular way. The pain was far too deep for ordinary tears. What happened was, my entire system nearly shut down completely. I literally cried blood. My eyes swelled up with inflamation that did not respond to medical treatment of various sorts that were tried. (I even went to a specialist, and nothing helped.) My eyes constantly poured what is called sero-sanguinous fluid - blood and serum - in such quantities that it ran down my cheeks continusously for weeks. I really understood what it meant to say "Let this cup pass from me!" I was looking at reality, and it nearly killed me.

The only difference was what I eventually chose to do with this vision. The key is in the above extract from the Cassiopaean material where it says:

...Is it one possible future, but not all possible futures? And is the pathway of free will not connected to all of this?

Q: (L) I seemed to be fighting and resisting this activity.
A: That was your choice. ...

Be not frustrated for the answers to be gained through your own contemplation will be truly illuminating to you and the experience to follow will be worth a thousand lifetimes of pleasure and joy.

Now, we are brought back face to face with our objective view of reality and our FREE WILL.

I KNEW I was "SEEING God." But, in the end, my CHOICE was to LOVE Him anyway. More than that, my choice was to MAKE MANIFEST those aspects of God IN MYSELF, that were of Love and Beauty and Truth as a FREE WILL CHOICE. I was not choosing out of FEAR, even a hidden fear, such as is present in most people who adhere to the "love and light" routine and eschew any knowledge of the darkness.

If one were present at such an event as the hatching of the turtles, would it be right to rescue the turtles, to kill or scare away the birds? Both represent aspects, or "Faces," of God, and both have a right to exist in their own context and to survive in their own way, so it would be wrong to interfere. But I would be hoping that some of the baby turtles would have the sense to wait until dark to make their dash to the sea! Perhaps that is how the Cassiopaeans relate to us - only with somewhat more complexity.

When you love your cat or dog, do you love them less for eating or killing other creatures? So what that he doesn't need to do it in his nice, warm, human home where dinner comes in a can. Leave him outdoors and on his own for a bit and he will soon enough eat whatever is there. Will you then reject him, love him less, or pretend that he - and dogs in general - do not exist?

Is this "consuming aspect" of our reality less acceptable when it reaches a "conscious" level, such as that of human beings? Are we not still to love all that exists as part of Nature, as part of God, and to accept it and allow it to BE as it IS - even while managing the delicate aspect of ensuring our own continuing right to exist and be?

And, if we do this, and further, if we CHOOSE to limit our participation in the consuming aspect to as great a degree as possible, can we think that we have learned one of the most valuable lessons of our reality? The lesson of what Love truly is? That Love is to love ALL, unconditionally, with no need or desire to change anything? That only in this state of Love - OBJECTIVE Love - can we truly have Free Will?

And that is the true meaning of the much touted "unconditional love." If you are going to love anything or anybody "in spite" of what it is or what they do, thinking that your love change something, then you are NOT loving unconditionally.

Further, loving unconditionally means to love the self in the same way. If your "unconditional love" of another means that you must "act" in any way other than what is authentic to you, then you haven't gotten it. Further, if this other person does not love you in the same way, allowing you to be fully accepted as you are, and you think that by continuing to hold them close and love THEM unconditionally, that they will finally figure it out and "change," then you have already violated the law of unconditional love. In terms of daily living, you can only live in unconditional love with another who understands it in exactly the same way you do.

I realized this. And I made my choice, as I said, to limit my participation in the lies and delusions to as great an extent as possible. This meant that I could no longer remain in close relationships that were less than fully reciprocal in terms of this kind of love. I understood clearly that this probably meant living entirely alone and loving the world and others unconditionally from a distance which was the only way I could see that it would be possible in practical terms. I could see that allowing myself to be used for "energy food" or otherwise, was NOT in the best interests of anyone I loved, nor was it in my best interests. (And the same applies in practical considerations of law and order as well.)

Thus, I made the decisions I made, acted on them, and the result was nothing short of amazing.

Now, how does this apply globally to our question?

It means that in the upcoming times, we may be very much like the newly hatched turtles on the Encantadas. And there are beings all around us who are like the ravenous, carnivorous birds. We DO have a chance to get to the sea. What's more, with awareness, we can do a lot more than that! We may, in fact, with growing awareness, be able to change one probable future to another.

Why would there be so much deception in our world if it were not for the fact that there is some quality, some aspect of ourselves that the ones who seek to keep us blind and unaware wish to keep hidden? Why else would there be such a plethora of teachings in the present day that tend to "soften" and "weaken" our resistance by appealing to our love of ease and comfort and "status quo?" Further, why is the teaching about Love, itself, so horribly distorted?

02-24-96

Q: (L) Mike Lindeman has proposed that we submit the channeling to 'rigorous testing.'
A: Mike Lindemann does not channel, now does he? What sort of rigorous testing does he propose?
Q: (L) He didn't say. I guess they want short-term predictions and all sorts of little tests...
A: Precisely, now what does this tell you?
Q: It tells us that he wants proof.
A: Third density "proof" does not apply, as we have explained again and again. Now, listen very carefully: if proof of that type were possible, what do you suppose would happen to free will, and thusly to learning, Karmic Directive Level One?
Q: (L) Well, I guess that if there is proof, you are believing in the proof and not the spirit of the thing. You are placing your reliance upon a material thing. You have lost your free will. Someone has violated your free will by the act of PROVING something to you.
A: If anyone CHOOSES to believe, that is their prerogative! And what would constitute proof?
Q: (L) Predictions that came true, answers that were verifiable about a number of things. Physical phenomena.
A: Those would still be dismissed by a great many as mere coincidences. We have already given predictions, will continue to do so, but, remember, "time" does not exist. This is a 3rd density illusion. We do not play in that sandbox and cannot and never will. The primary reason for our communication is to help you to learn by teaching yourselves to learn, thereby strengthening your soul energy, and assisting your advancement.
Q: (L) Are you saying that your primary reason is just to teach us? This small group?
A: Because you asked for help.
Q: (L) So, you came through because we asked. Is this material being given to others, or is it designed to or intended to be shared with others?
A: If they ask in the necessary way. Otherwise, the sharing of the messages we give to you will teach millions of others.
Q: (L) What is the 'necessary way?'
A: How "long did it take you?"
Q: (L) Well, it took all our lives and a LOT of hard work.
A: Okay, now what did we mean when we referred to "millions of others?"
Q: (L) Are you saying that this information will be transmitted in some way to millions of others?
A: In what way?
Q: (L) Well, the only thing I can think of is through writing.
A: Bingo!!
Q: (W) That's a lot of work.
A: The work has been ongoing, W!
Q: (W) Well, it all has to be typed, and edited, and correlated and put in a cohesive form, and it will be a couple of years....
A: All will be taken care of, and no, W!
Q: (W) Well, I was thinking of the time frame and so many things are getting ready to happen any time now. It seems like the information needs to get out there soon or it will be obsolete.
A: Prejudice serves no purpose! Also, who says that the information is going to be obsolete? Wait and see.

And more on the subject of proof versus strength:

04-18-98

A: We wish to reiterate something further on this subject A__, and for anyone else in need of the following message: we are not communicating with you in order to "prove" our existence. If one has faith and is willing to learn, to explore new realms and to discover what will one "day" be commonplace awareness profile, then no "proof" is necessary. If, on the other hand, one is of the opposite psychic orientation, then no amount of proof is adequate.
Q: (A) Yes, I think it is like the story of the magic crocodile skin where you can make wishes on it, and with every wish it becomes smaller. And, you are told that when it becomes too small, then you die. And, of course, you try, and say 'let me do one more wish...' and that is it. Once you make the choice to ask and not do the work, then it becomes easier and easier and you want more and more... and your own will and force becomes smaller and smaller...

(L) I think that the most important thing that has come out of this channelling is that sometimes the C's sort of trick me into trying something and they pique my curiosity and I go out and DO something that results in a learning experience that is truly awesome. And the important thing is, getting out and doing the work actually makes you stronger. And, like you just said, each time you make the choice to NOT go after the answer yourself, to try and get it the easy way, it makes you weaker and lessens who you are. It is sort of a nonlinear principle that can lead to all kinds of things. If they gave us all the conceptual truths, we would have lost something HUGE in the way of strength and free will. Like those sources that supposedly gave the secrets of the bomb... and other sources that just give and give all sorts of things and you can clearly see the deterioration of those involved... (F) Yes, and the crucial point is the robbing of free will INITIATIVE. (L) So, it is a VERY SUBTLE thing.

And:

06-19-99
A: Have we not already indicated? Knowledge is power. If we give it to you like Halloween candy, it is diffused.

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